yes they are!..the build quality is up there!..and the sound too,i have played mauriats and the ones i tried were excellent,impressive.Hi,
Simple (or not!) question... are mauriats pro models already on same level as modern selmer's tenors?
Shoot some thoughts!
Do you mean magnum neck for each of the 66 and 86r?Haha, how many subjective opinions do you want? I love some modern Selmers, I recently played a killing Dragonbird (EDIT: ah that was an alto though). When I was comparing at Frankfurt Musikmesse it was hard to tell as the Selmers were so badly set up. On average though, taking that kind of thing into account, I would put my money on mauriats, especially the 66R and 86R plus a magnum neck.
If I had to choose, and they cost the same, I would choose a Mauriat.
I can't exactly remember, definitely on the 66R and I did try a different neck on the 86R, I believe it was a magnum but won't swear.Do you mean magnum neck for each of the 66 and 86r?
He said MODERN Selmers (Ref series).Never played a 20 year old Mauriat so far...
I think I had understood. The Refs and S-III have been aging for a while today, and many SA-IIs out there have been on the road for 2 decades. You can see how they stand in real life. Same for many Yams & Yanis. Mauriat ?He said MODERN Selmers (Ref series).
You like more your mauriat than the mk vi?I'm a knuckle headed, amateur, late bloomer, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I own and play both a 66 and a mark vi- Is it worth your time trying a Mauriat? Absolutely. I don't see how you wouldn't. What you buy- Completely up to your preference- But anybody that tells you not to even try a Mauriat is simply not being open minded. Like it or not they are part of mix.
i don't think that i've totally understood your point... can you explain better? the reference have not 20 years... can you trust on them? it's not the point...I think I had understood. The Refs and S-III have been aging for a while today, and many SA-IIs out there have been on the road for 2 decades. You can see how they stand in real life. Same for many Yams & Yanis. Mauriat ?
BUT.... even the new Selmer models are compared to the mark vi and sba horns.... so, maybe the 'Selmer' brand is not like hyundais and bmw after all... maybe it's possible to make comparison even if it is a recent new brand. It the quality is already high between Modern Selmer and (Modern) Mauriat's, does history means that much?It's really an unfair question. Selmer has been making saxophones for nearly a century and set the benchmark standard with their Mark VI line over fifty years ago. Even their current lines continue to be compared to by other brands as the standard for professional model saxophones and hold a prominent position in today's market. Mauriat has not yet established itself among the vast majority of players as other brands such as Yamaha and Yanagisawa have done over the last twenty years. So are Mauriats on the same level as Selmer? No. Not by a long shot. Could they ever be? Anything's possible. Individuals might prefer a Mauriat over a Selmer, but this by no means puts Mauriat on the same overall level given more general and easily recognized parameters.
Don't mix puffery in ad copy with logic. It's the motivation for the puffery by other brands that's relevant.BUT.... even the new Selmer models are compared to the mark vi and sba horns.... so, maybe the 'Selmer' brand is not like hyundais and bmw after all...
Quality is highly subjective, as would be tone and performance. There are more objective means to answer your question. The better question might be will you recognize them.It the quality is already high between Modern Selmer and (Modern) Mauriat's, does history means that much?
i do not want any particular answer, it was a fair question.Seems like some people will argue ad nauseum until they get the answer they want...
Simple answer: yes.Simple (or not!) question... are mauriats pro models already on same level as modern selmer's tenors?
thank you for your commentSimple answer: yes.
To be frank, once you get past a certain price-point (let's say Yamaha 62) pretty much anything you can find is going to be up to the mark.
Build quality? Selmer used to be among the best, but the Japanese surpassed them some time ago and now it seems that Yanagisawa are setting the standard. The Taiwanese have been steadily improving over the last few years.
Quality control? Selmer's is definitely not what it used to be - Mauriat's has improved lately (and it needed to) - but horns from both companies still need a professional hand to set them up properly.
Longevity? I'm still fixing cheapo horns from the '70's, and if they can last the course so can anything else.
Quality of sound? Entirely up to you. Used to be that pro players would come into the workshop carrying either a Selmer, Yamaha, Yanagisawa or a vintage horn. These days it can be almost anything.