[Sax_In_The_Box]

Hey guys!

Is this a Martin bari or not?



Here is the link for the eBay ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


Thanks much!

 

[Grumps]

Not. The low C guard is distinctly Conn, as is the antiquated octave mechanism. Though the tone holes appear beveled, that's not enough to make it Martin. Some of the old horns that shared Conn and Martin characteristics turn out to be Couturier. I'd have to lean Conn though, just for the octave mechanism which appears to be just like the one on my 1920 Conn New Wonder bari.

 

[JayeLID]

Side neck pip, only keyed up to Eb. A fixer.

It was only worth around $250 actually. Even completely overhauled, the horn would be worth perhaps $650.

 

[StuartSax]

The low C key guard isn't definitive on a stencil. This one has beveled tone holes which indicate it might be Martin although the keywork, notably, the LH A touch piece does look like Conn, too.

It also might be Courtier or mixed parts made in Elkhart.

 

[bruce bailey]

The low C guard is Courturier.

 

[turf3]

The low C guard is Courturier.

Could it be a Holton, Martin, or Couturier with a replaced low C guard? Did anyone else ever use the octave vent on the side of the neck besides Conn? Could it be a Frankenhorn of some sort?

 

[turf3]

The low C guard is Courturier.

Could it be a Holton, Martin, or Couturier with a replaced low C guard? Did anyone else ever use the octave vent on the side of the neck besides Conn? Could it be a Frankenhorn of some sort? I tell you, everything except the beveled tone holes looks totally Conn to me.

Upon second look, (still disrgarding the tone holes) it looks awfully like a Conn but not just exactly. No X brace at bell. Much of the mechanism looks very much like Conn. The fork Eb on the lower stack, I've only ever seen made that particular way on Conns and Holtons. The felt bumper on the low C key rather than the guard is very Conn.

 

[Sax_In_The_Box]

Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my question.

 

[Sax_In_The_Box]

I have the pictures of an early martin tenor that looks very similar to mine. serial number 72xxx https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ma...864450?hash=item3d84505dc2:g:dFoAAOSwE1tccftv

 

[Grumps]

Martin's early bass saxes were stencils from Conn and/or Buescher. Looks like their early baritone saxes were Conn stencils; like the horn above.