[jim70]

Are there any particular era of Mark VI tenor that had no 'MARK VI' markings etched anywhere at all??
Nothing on the front face of the bow ring and nothing near the left thumbrest on body tube.
Came across a 119XXX series horn and saw nothing.
Had the correct Selmer Pat numbers along with the serial number on aft lower body tube as we all know.
Had no number on neck either.
It seemed to have more of a European engraving to it.

Is this omission normal for a MK VI?
I've seen 5 digit horns with the body tube near the thumbrest etched 'MARK VI' and the common front bell/body ring.
But to find neither of these??
Just curious..suspicious??

 

[Michael Ward]

Jim none of my V1's have these markings and they are all Paris assembled horns, My tenor is 117... series, alto 107... I've never seen a European horn with the etching near the thumb.

 

[jim70]

So in short words,there is NO 'Mark VI' wording on your horns at all.
None anywhere..
Thx
Jim

 

[tranesonic]

only the USA-market horns had Mark VI engraved near the thumbrest and the serial number stamped on the crook. The later European-market horns did have "Mark VI" engraved on the bell ring at the front, not sure exactly from when, maybe mid to late 1960's?

 

[sopranosaxman]

So in short words,there is NO 'Mark VI' wording on your horns at all.
None anywhere..
Thx
Jim

Correct there is no engraving that says mk.VI on the european assembled horns.

 

[jimmyb]

Hi Jim,

My tenor has no "mark VI", no serial number on the neck, but does have the serial number on the bell brace mount on the bell as well as the normal place on the back of the body tube near the bottom bow.

Jimmy.

 

[bruce bailey]

I got mine in France in 1964 and it has no Mark VI markings either SO the conclusion is that Euro horns don't have Mark VI or the serial number on the neck.

 

[Michael Ward]

As most above have stated no Mark V1 engravings. My bari is a late model low Bb 219... and that doesn't either.
Interestingly also my alto is engraved then lacquered on top and the Selmer Paris London New York and serial number are engraved through the lacquer. I got this horn new.

 

[HornForHire]

I've got a 92,xxx New York assembled tenor, with no Mark VI engraving anywhere on the horn...

 

[bruce bailey]

Elkhart assembled?

 

[HornForHire]

Yes, it says 'New York.Elkhart' on the bell.

 

[bruce bailey]

They actually never built them in New York but had an office there and it sounds better than some small northern Indiana village.

 

[JEB]

I believe that the same Selmer stamps were used on all instrument, irrespective on whether they were destined to European or American markets. Is that right?

 

[Mike F]

Yes that's right, the only difference between Euro and American 6's (apart from the design of the bell engraving) is that the Euro horns were not engraved 'MKV1', although as tranesonic said from the late 60's Euro horns were stamped (not engraved) MKV1 on the bow bell joint.