[jd]

Ive always played on dukoff tenors and have 2 really good ones.a d6 and a d7. Ive played the d6 .095 (big tips are not and never will be for me)for all occasions.weddings,clubs, parties ,blues,r/b,50s gigs and jazz gigs with no issues. Its the only mouthpiece I've ever loved since I was 19 and Im 61 now.the dukoffs are kind of worn out now and Im looking for a high quality well made piece.looking for a new toy basically.Im keeping both dukoffs and I'm cool with never finding anything I like better,Ive tried pretty much everything over the years so I don't need the dealers popping up with recommending their mouthpieces because Ive probably already tried them. I do sometimes play a jumbo java t45 which I like but not as much as my dukoffs. Been seeing all these younger guys playing jody and wanne pieces and they are so well made Id thought Id probably would like them. They really sound great too. no place to just go and test so I either will look used of eBay/reverb or order from a place that has a return policy. I actually have a super jet alto from jody which I like a lot. tried a 7 super jet tenor and it wasn't for me.question is what wanne pieces would be comparable to a great dukoff? he makes so many models and then there are 1,2,3,4 generations. its confusing. also Im wondering if jody even makes a dv in a 6* or 7 . all I see is 6=90 or 7*=105 . thanks for any insights about these brands in advance .

 

[Enthusiast65]

Given the pieces you’re coming from, do look at Fred Rast’s contemporary metal model - exceptional in every way and very full and comfortable in a modest tip.


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[jd]

Thanks I’ve not heard about that company yet . Appreciate it

 

[jd]

Ok just took a look 650.00 bucks for the piece . None on eBay. If I bought it and didn’t love it I’d be hard pressed to get my money back. That’s kind of why I wanted to stick with well known makers that would be easier to resell. I’d probably lose hundreds if I didn’t like it. I don’t mind expensive if I love something though... it’s kind of tricky not to lose big money trying pieces .

 

[Enthusiast65]

You could ask Fred up front and see if he'll do a cash return - nothing ventured....

BTW I use a #7 and its like butter.

 

[jd]

Thanks

 

[jambsspiii]

The Jody Jazz DV comes in the following tip openings: 6, 7, 7*, 8*, 9*, 10*

Good luck on your search.

 

[jambsspiii]

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[Spooner]

JD - I can speak to your questions about the Theo Wanne mouthpieces. I work for Theo doing the computer modeling and CNC programming/machining---I am a player too. From your descriptions above I think you would like the Durga and the Shiva mouthpieces. They are both high baffle, large chamber pieces so they have tons of projection without a real sacrifice on the bottom end of the horn. The Shiva is a little brighter than the Durga, so that would just be a matter of dialing in to your personal taste. The smallest tip opening we make in both of those lines is a 7* (or .105"), but I will say--even if you are used to a slightly smaller tip opening, don't be scared off by a small jump in tip size. These mouthpieces are super free blowing and easy to get a huge full tone with.

We also offer a zero risk trial policy -- if you order something from us, you can spend up to two weeks with it to make sure it's a good fit for you. If you find that it's not your cup of tea for any reason, send it back to us for a full refund.

I hope that helps answer some of your questions -- if you have any other questions that I can help you with (or anyone reading this for that matter) please email me at [email protected] any time

 

[jd]

It helps a lot . 105 tip does scare me off a little but it sounds like a fabulous piece. Thanks also for the sizing info of the jody pieces as well. Sounds like a dv or a shiva might be right for me .i appreciate the info. Even though people say dukoffs are crazy bright I always could get a full sound with them but I’ll look around for a shiva.

 

[jd]

I’m thinking that to only sell some models in a 105 tip or higher that Theo is neglecting about half the sax playing population who like 100 tip or smaller . It’s like only selling jeans in a size 30-36 �� half the people are a little bigger just my thoughts ...

 

[reedsburn62]

I normally play 7 or .100 tips and am now on a Theo Wanne GAIA 3 7* and it is just right. Don't let tip openings hang you up, there is so much more that goes into a mouthpiece design. I trialed 10 mouthpieces from Theo (tenor and soprano), it was the best way to see if his products were for me. Excellent customer service, especially during these times. I play a tenor GAIA 3 7*, metal and a soprano GAIA 3 9. I use the same reeds I was playing before: D'Addario 3S un-filed. I love these mouthpieces, just wish all of my tours were not cancelled.

 

[jd]

That’s cool I did try a friends datta and it was too much for me to handle. Felt too open for me but I’d like to try some of his other models. Yea my gigs are all shot too. It sucks . My piece has to play easy or I move on . Currently looking at some Jody mouthpieces . I did try the alto mindi abair which was ok but didn’t love it. I thank you for your input . Appreciate it.

 

[JL]

I'm thinking that to only sell some models in a 105 tip or higher that Theo is neglecting about half the sax playing population who like 100 tip or smaller . It's like only selling jeans in a size 30-36 �� half the people are a little bigger just my thoughts ...

One thing to keep in mind is the fact that med to high baffle mpcs (esp high baffle) require a wider tip opening unless you want a thin, shrill tone. The larger tip helps balance out the extra brightness and give depth and body to the tone. I learned this early on after switching from an overly bright high baffle mpc around .100 to a 120 RPC. The difference was astounding.

If you want to play smaller tips, stick to lower rollover baffles. Also, a well designed mpc (like Wanne & others--see below) will play very well with a large tip. So don't be worried about larger tips if you want a med-high baffle mpc. I wouldn't play anything smaller than 115 with those baffles.

In addition to Wanne, I'd also recommend 10mFan (wide range of choices), Phil-Tone (I think he now has a med-high baffle piece?), and Pete Thomas (PPT) mpcs for the type of mpc you seem to looking for. Also RPC, if you can find one in the used market (Ron Cuelho passed away a short time ago).

 

[reedsburn62]

My 2 cents: only try pieces you can return after a trial period. It takes time and upfront money but we're stuck at home anyway.

 

[wanderso]

Phil-Tone Mosaic is a metal tenor piece that I highly recommend and is my daily player. Don’t know what tip sizes are possible, but all are hand-finished by Phil and he is very good at responding to email inquiries, so ask him. I have played modern boutique Links and like them, but the Mosaic is different from all the Links I’ve tried.

 

[jd]

Reedsburn your right! Thanks jl what works for you are the “common knowledge “ about baffles doesn’t seem to apply to me .for years I used high baffles with . 095 and .098 tips and they work for me . What works for you has no bearing on what works for me.i have tried all the pieces you have suggested and didn’t like any of them . To be fair the ones I really didn’t like were in the higher tip sizes . Since I have great Jody jazz alto pieces I’m going to give the DV tenor a try . Appreciate all the input from players about these brands

 

[JL]

i have tried all the pieces you have suggested and didn't like any of them .

Really, you've tried all those pieces I mentioned? Then you've been busy and must know what you're after. You're right that what works for one player won't necessarily work for another. Just sharing my experience since you asked for info.

 

[jd]

Yes I’ve tried everything. I have 2 friends that are dealers and other pro friends with big collections . I know without a doubt which tip size works for me after 48 years of playing so I’m looking for something as similar as what I’m used to. Chances are I won’t find anything I like as much as my old dukoffs but I keep looking anyways. One thing I have learned is when it comes to mouthpieces common knowledge doesn’t mean anything because we are all so different. Smaller tip high baffle doesn’t nessasarily mean thin or shrill. It’s all about who’s playing it and how comfortable they are with the set up just as big tips don’t nessessarily mean big sound .

 

[jd]

ok after trying most brands I did find something that I like as much as my old dukoffs. its a jody jazz jet tenor in a 6 facing. I didn't like the super jet tenor but the jet tenor is the one I really like. plays easy with a big sound. very versatile piece. Ive been playing it for about 5 weeks or so and love it. On alto i love the super jet so I figured it was worth a try with the jody jet tenor. I've played so many mouthpieces and this is one that I can like as much as the dukoffs. for the amount of effort it gives you a big sound and intonation on this one is good. hopefully Im done with this mouthpiece hunting (for a while anyways)