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Hi folks. Two artists I'm wanting to improve my knowledge of and am looking for album recommendations- firstly- anyone care to recommend some John Surman (embarrassed to say that I've only just discovered this guy- gorgeous stuff, but a very long career with, I'd assume, various stylistic phases- anybody capable of giving me an overview or top album tips). Also looking to find the good bits of Sun Ra- preferably all on one disc (I've picked up quite a few of his albums and a fair proportion of them seem fairly conventional), any tips for 'essential Sun Ra' tracks (aside form Space is the Place and Where Pathways Meet & Soul Vibrations of Man- which I've got already).... any recommendations gladly received
 

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The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One Sun Ra ESP

The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One Sun Ra ESP

Some Blues But Not The Kind Thats Blue Sun Ra and his Arkestra Saturn

Interstellar Low Ways (aka Rocket Number Nine) Sun Ra and his Myth Science Arkestra

Those are 4 of my very favorite " RA" records of the _many_he recorded. There is a great one with Pharoah Sanders that I bought from them at a live show in Philly in the70's....and it is killer. It's a hand painted cover and I am assuming not re-issued yet. One of my favs. John Gilmore is my secret weapon, in the Ra dynasty and, I love what and how he dealt his thing. You might want to check with forum member " Side C" bevause he did time with Ra, and might have some good info, on the records/Cds. These happen to be favs of mine...of the many :)

With Surman- I got to say- I collect them all.:mrgreen:
He played NYC the other year year and Claire Daly and I went there and went out of our skulls listening to him! I went back 3 times, it was some of the best playing I ever heard in my life!!! EVER!!

IF....you can find.....THE TRIO.....with Surman, Barre Phillips and Stu Martin.

With this on it- GET IT!! iT'S THE ESSENCE OF sURMAN.
The Trio "Off Dear" ("Ossiach Live")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I--bRDUv0gs

The ECM music I adore, the soprano playing knocks me out..I say take your time. And just start the adventure.

OR THIS ;
McLaughlin, Holland, Surman, Stu Martin and Berger "Glancing Backwards (For Junior)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfCK_EUdV44&feature=related

MORE " TRIO"
The Trio "Dee Tune"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvkg2ujc0oA&feature=related


mORE SOON....THAT SHOULD GET YA COOKIN'
 

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i love john mclaughlin's extrapolation, surman sounds like a moster on that album, a really great record....
 

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I'm playing baritone on "Where Pathways Meet." I never though it would turn out to be one of his definitive recordings. It's hard for me to recomend any favorites though, I'm pretty much in awe of everything he did. Danny, John Gilmore, and Marshall Allen were some awesome teachers.
 

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I like the Surman album "Coruscating" a lot. It's quite far from straight-ahead jazz but very beautiful music. I think he plays soprano, baritone and bass clarinet on that.
 

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Thanks guys- really appreciate the tips. Re John Surman- Mr Rooty Tootoot, this is all your fault- for obvious reasons!
SideC- Where Pathways Meet may not be generally regarded as definitive- but, hey, it is for me (partly due to it featuring in the live set of UK’s ‘Spatial AKA Orchestra’s’ tribute to Sun Ra). Mr Price- the YouTube clips…. Wow, is all I can say. A new God enters my Pantheon of players…….
 

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Hey Nacho,
Agree with Mr Price regarding "The Trio" Recordings, but also check out this Surman/DeJohnette record "Invisible Nature" The first track "Mysterium" is killer...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/f3qv

As for Sun Ra, I wouldn't know where to start there is so much great music,I have a fondness for "Atlantis" myself...
I also love the John Gilmore/Pete La Rocka album "Turkish Women at the Bath"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpKG6zzHH_Q
 
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