[Henblower]

I found this mouthpiece which is a mystery to me in a way: the "MP 7*" indicates it was refaced by one of the best German refaces who has, sadly enough, stopped his refacing-business: Jo Schnabl. I once had a Dukoff Hollywood that he had worked on, and it was absolutely top notch.
I'm talking about the tip size stamps on both sides (if I see them correctly). Underneath Joe's stamp there is a (larger font size) 6. On the other side, where you usually find the tip size stamp, I think I see a "4*" in a smaller font size that is typical of the Florida no USA period.
Could this mean the mouthpiece was refaced by Link in the Babbitt era? Did they use a stamp on the opposite side if they refaced an older Link?
I hope the pics can help. Thanks for looking and commenting.

 

[whaler]

I’d bet it’s a Ted Klum re-face. It’s got the shaky look of other things I’ve seen of his engravings.

 

[Henblower]

No, the '7*' and the ' #645" are Joe's engraving pattern. I remember them from the Dukoff he refaced. What really puzzles me is the smaller "4*" on the "correct" side and the larger "6" on the opposite side.

 

[jgreiner]

TOTALLY a guess, but I'd also agree with you that it was probably refaced/opened by Link (Babbitt era) and re-stamped. Simply because I honestly can't think of any other logical explanation!

 

[brasscane]

Another possibility is that this is a lost-wax mouthpiece molded upon a 4* original.

 

[mrpeebee]

Another possibility is that this is a lost-wax mouthpiece molded upon a 4* original.

That's what I also thought. The rings in the shank look very faint, like in the lost-wax pieces Sakshama makes.

 

[reedsburn62]

That's what I also thought. The rings in the shank look very faint, like in the lost-wax pieces Sakshama makes.

+1

 

[jgreiner]

Great observations about it possibly being a Sakshama lost wax copy! Hopefully, Sakshama will see this and chime in!

 

[whaler]

I doubt is a lost was. Even though these are really bad photos those things are fugly.

 

[jgreiner]

I doubt is a lost was. Even though these are really bad photos those things are fugly.

Well, my Sakshama 'pieces might not win any beauty contests, but they play outstanding and I have yet to have someone come up to me and say "gosh, that's not the most pretty or shiny thing you're playing on".
Just sayin'....

 

[Sakshama]

Great observations about it possibly being a Sakshama lost wax copy! Hopefully, Sakshama will see this and chime in!

That is definitely not my piece. I would not copy a 4* when there are more open pieces available. It seems to me it is an original that was buffed a lot and then replated.

 

[reedsburn62]

The plot thickens.

 

[jgreiner]

That is definitely not my piece. I would not copy a 4* when there are more open pieces available. It seems to me it is an original that was buffed a lot and then replated.

I too thought you copied larger (6-7 or 8) sized facings. Good point on an original being buffed to holy hell and replated. Hope you're doing well, Sakshama!

 

[mrpeebee]

That's what I also thought. The rings in the shank look very faint, like in the lost-wax pieces Sakshama makes.

I too thought you copied larger (6-7 or 8) sized facings. Good point on an original being buffed to holy hell and replated. Hope you're doing well, Sakshama!

I actually did use the words 'like Sakshama makes', it still could be a lost wax made by someone else (I wouldn't know if others use that technic anyhow).

But it could indeed also be a buffed/refaced/replated mouthpiece, difficult to conclude from those pictures.