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I measured length (from top to bell) of my Series III & 875EX, it is 66cm & 65cm respectively. So I have to push mouthpiece "far in" on Series III.

But I found my Mark VI is 64cm long which is considerably shorter than both modern horns! Is that old Mark VI shorter in general or just mine?
 

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Length of the sax is dependent on the bore and taper. A smaller bore/taper horn will be shorter. A larger bore horn will be longer. Has everything to do with the volume of the instrument and the standing wave that actually vibrates. 1 cm isn't a particularly significant difference (even on a sop), but is due entirely to this bit of physics. There are others on the forum that can give you references to the math, but this is the lay version of it.
 

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Yamaha sopranos are shorter: Wayne Shorter .... 8-(
 

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Length of the sax is dependent on the bore and taper. A smaller bore/taper horn will be shorter. A larger bore horn will be longer. Has everything to do with the volume of the instrument and the standing wave that actually vibrates. 1 cm isn't a particularly significant difference (even on a sop), but is due entirely to this bit of physics. There are others on the forum that can give you references to the math, but this is the lay version of it.
Are you certain of this, 'Maddenma'? Seems counter-intuitive to me. I only asking to clarify this point, not to get into any disagreement. Am not an expert on the physics of this, nor have I spent any time measuring the length of any saxes, but would seem a larger bore/taper horn would be the shorter, as volume displaced equal to that of a smaller bore horn would be accomplished over a shorter length cone. I play what are generally considered larger bore horns in my alto (Conn 6M) and tenor (Couf Superba 1), so this question is of some interest (theoretically, at least). Could you explain further the reasoning (or further theory) behind your statement. Thanx.

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Yeah, thanks Dave. It's like 'deja vu' all over again. I do remember that thread, actually having taken part in it. I think there were some particularly useful comments from certain folks, but lots of contention about whether 'small bore' vs. 'large bore' had any clear agreed upon meaning. The conclusion I was able to draw was there are more factors involved than just bore size or angle of taper, however, that we can generally agree there are indeed models of horns which tend towards a broader, more spread sound, and those with a tighter more focused character and that bore size and angle of taper were part of the equation.

I was questioning in this current thread whether it can correctly be said that "a smaller bore means a shorter horn, and a larger bore equals a longer horn". I didn't get that from the previous discussion, and it does seem counter-intuitive to me. Having said that.......think I will now step out of this discussion, because although of some intellectual interest, it seems a bit like 'stepping on a land mine'. Peace out........

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Well I stay with the Juan Ignacio Caino (which is a restore man and buescher specialist) statement. Seems to be 4 types of sax:

Larger bore, Larger Taper
Larger bore Small Taper
Small bore Larger Taper
Small bore Small Taper

I Imagine the length measurements will be different between this type of horns.
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I just measured five of my straight sopranos, using a metal tape measure. I placed the horn on a flat surface and measured from the bell to the tip of the neck. I also hooked the tape's end over the tip of the bell and measured the length on the taper (almost the same result as leveling the tape from bottom to top).

Buescher TT . . . 25 3/4"
Yanagisawa S901 . . . 25 3/4"
Yanagisawa S992 . . . 25 3/4"
Antigua 590 . . . 25 3/4"
KUSTOM (MKVI Clone)..25 1/4"

I also put a stiff ruler across the five necks and three sops touched the ruler. The Antigua was a HAIR shorter (maybe 1/32") and the MK-VI clone was obviously shorter to the naked eye.

It has been a long time since I owned a real MKVI soprano and I never measured it. But if my MKVI-clone is similar (and I think it is), then the MKVI is shorter than other sopranos (at least compared to the ones I own now). DAVE
 

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This is a question that's weighed on my mind for years now as well. I once had my soprano in for repair, and I needed a horn for a performance the next day. The only horn I could manage to scrounge up to use in the interim was an old Martin Handcraft soprano that was on consignment at a local music store. When I got my horn back I noticed that the Martin was noticeably shorter than my modern horn - always wondered about the difference and what it meant. There were no noticeable intonation problems, so I don't think it was a high-pitch horn (didn't know to look for it back then anyway), nor was it a C-soprano. I sure hated having to give the Martin back...what a gorgeous instrument to play, both tonally and visually (frosted silver plate, brushed gold inside the bell, beautiful engraving)...still the best-sounding sop I've played in 27+ years of playing saxophone.
 
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