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Does anyone know if anyone makes a "shield" to go over the circular left hand thumb pad just below the octave key? The clear lacquer on my Series III is wearing off. :(

Any preventative measures for something like this?
 

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I wouldn't worry about it. The lacquer is going to wear off the side keys and thumbpad, wherever your fingers rub, first. Then over time it will wear off much of the rest of the horn. That's good honest wear, it won't affect how the horn plays or sounds at all, and not much can be done about it. What you really want to do is keep the horn in great playing condition with regular 'servicing' by a competent tech.
 

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Have a thin piece of cork glued on the rest the next time it's in for a check up.
If you get 'sweaty fingers' it helps keep your thumb in place. :)
 

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What? It didn't come with a pair of special white gloves? You gotta have the white gloves, man! You didn't get white gloves...You got ripped off.

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Remembered another one.... Paint the area with clear nail polish. Colored if you're feeling a little crazy.
Maybe your tech has one of those little plastic/rubber caps laying around that they can pop over it if you don't like the cork or polish ideas.
Or, Just let well enough alone and allow your sax to age gracefully. :)
 

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Does anyone know if anyone makes a "shield" to go over the circular left hand thumb pad just below the octave key? The clear lacquer on my Series III is wearing off. :(

Any preventative measures for something like this?
Congrats - you are using your horn! In a world where everyone else (well, not quite everyone) is stripping their lacquer to make it look kewl, you are wearing your lacquer off by playing. That's the way it should happen.

Now, back to playing!

Check back in when you've started to notice wear on the pearls. :twisted:
 

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Hey, I just have two goals: play it as much as I can, keep it looking new as long as I can (without any doing any permanent modifications or anything goofy like wearing gloves.)

Wear on the pearls :shock:
 

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Hey, I just have two goals: play it as much as I can, keep it looking new as long as I can (without any doing any permanent modifications or anything goofy like wearing gloves.)

Wear on the pearls :shock:
A true 'players' horn will have wear on the pearls. AND lacquer wear, scratches, a few minor 'dings'...
Face it, these things will and do happen. Every one is a part of it's 'history'.
You'll be able to look at each and every one and remember where/when/how...
No scrapes and booboos.... no memories! :bluewink:
 

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Hey, I just have two goals: play it as much as I can, keep it looking new as long as I can (without any doing any permanent modifications or anything goofy like wearing gloves.)
<1950s Sci-Fi computer voice on> Your expectations are incompatible with your goals...bbzzztt.

To paraphrase the popular song - the first scratch is the deepest.
If you use a horn it'll show signs of wear, and how much wear it shows depends on the type of finish - and to some extent, the make of the horn.
Lacquer isn't that tough, so will start to wear before a plated finish - and some companies use tougher lacquer than others (Yamaha lacquer seems to be about the toughest).
In the end though, all well-played horns will show signs of wear and end up looking a bit shabby. Indeed, this is the driving force behind the currently popular 'antique' or 'vintage' finish option - makes the horn look like it's been around a bit.

...which makes me think...perhaps the next step will be to sell horns with the finish carefully polished off in selected areas only....

Glueing things over the affected areas never seems to work that well - and more often than not it goes all gooey and makes a mess. Applying secondary coats of lacquer or varnish seldom works well for any length of time either, and often ends up making things look a whole lot worse.

There is a possible solution, you could try making some custom 'socks' from Sugru.
This would work quite well, though the drawback is that it would raise the height of your finger. This is fine if that's the intention (such as with palm key risers) but I doubt you'd want that on your octave key thumb rest.
Still, with a bit of care you could make a sock that's quite thin on the top...though I don't know how much wear it would take.
It wouldn't cost a lot to find out, and it wouldn't do any harm to the finish.

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/HandyHints/key_risers.htm

Wear on the pearls :shock:
The mark of a saxophone Jedi knight.
Actually it's a bit of a gamble as to whether the key pearls will wear or not. I've seen horns that have been used by pros for longer than I've been alive - some have worn pearls, some don't. I guess it's down to how acidic or rough the player's skin is.

If you play the sax long enough you'll reach the status of a Guru - at which point your fingers will start to wear through the metal itself.

My advice would be to forget about the wear marks and accept them as reminders of how much playing you've done - and buy some key oil instead...because you'll need it.

Regards,
 

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If you play the sax long enough you'll reach the status of a Guru - at which point your fingers will start to wear through the metal itself.,
At what point is the status of Yoda reached?
 

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I believe most lacquer wear is due to chemical reactions between the lacquer and the substances on a player's hands. Friction assists this process, but it's not the primary cause. Wipe the horn down after each use with a clean cotton cloth.
 

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At what point is the status of Yoda reached?
Ahh, young Jedi...if you have to ask....

...but if you really want to know it's when the note you don't play becomes as important as the one you do play.

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Actually it's a circular thing...

When you're just starting out, no one can tell the difference between a good day and an off day.

Then there's the middle ground, where off days show, and people other than yourself can notice when you're not on top of your game.

Once you reach Yoda, no one can tell when you're having a bad day again.
 

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Ahh, young Jedi...if you have to ask....

...but if you really want to know it's when the note you don't play becomes as important as the one you do play.

Regards,
Nice....!
 
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