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...but I couldn't afford it and even if I could I wouldn't have the resources to make a success of it.

We should all club together and form a SOTW co-operative :)
 

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So continues the exciting and dramatic decline and fall
of western civilization. Coming up in next week's
thrilling episode: the financial/industrial/political complex
sells out your entire democratic legacy to double down
on a hedge fund play! Meanwhile, I was still thinking...

It is sad to see this happen and I hope someone buys
it up & carries on successfully. Saxophones
are labor intensive and so far no one has found a way
to apply high tech to mitigate this. Guitars have enjoyed
a revolution in design/manufacture/pricing because CNC
machining brought tremendous economies. With saxophones
I'll bet we see this with injection molding or at least something
new that doesn't resemble the metal monsters we know & love.

If you've got money don't invest it in reviving B & S. Buy up
as many quality older horns and vault them away, it's a better bet.
It you do buy B&S build a $10K horn so good people will clamor for it.

It should not, but does surprise me at the amount of naive
complaint heard here about the price of instruments. Today's
prices for 'traditional', quality horns will sound impossibly cheap
in ten years or less, which is not forever. To me this is a lot
like the American expectation of cheap gasoline as a birthright.

If we'd have had real public shool music education in the US for
the last 30 years the demand for the best eastern, American
and European horns would be much greater, supporting the
industry that's now gone to XXXX. I mourn the loss of skilled
livelihoods and the obscure expertise that make 'magic '
instruments possible but it is inevitable.
 

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rabbit said:
So continues the exciting and dramatic decline and fall
of western civilization. Coming up in next week's
thrilling episode: the financial/industrial/political complex
sells out your entire democratic legacy to double down
on a hedge fund play! Meanwhile, I was still thinking...

It is sad to see this happen and I hope someone buys
it up & carries on successfully. Saxophones
are labor intensive and so far no one has found a way
to apply high tech to mitigate this. Guitars have enjoyed
a revolution in design/manufacture/pricing because CNC
machining brought tremendous economies. With saxophones
I'll bet we see this with injection molding or at least something
new that doesn't resemble the metal monsters we know & love.

If you've got money don't invest it in reviving B & S don't. Buy up
as many quality older horns and vault them away, it's a better bet.
It you buy B&S build a $10K horn so good people will clamor for it.

It should not, but does surprise me at the amount of naive
complaint heard here about the price of instruments. Today's
prices for 'traditional', quality horns will sound impossibly cheap
in ten years or less, which is not forever. To me this is a lot
like the American expectation of cheap gasoline as a birthright.

If we'd have had real public shool music education in the US for
the last 30 years the demand for the best eastern, American
and European horns would be much greater, supporting the
industry that's now gone to XXXX. I mourn the loss of skilled
livelihoods and the obscure expertise that make 'magic '
instruments possible but it is inevitable.

thank you for your words...


:)
 

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rabbit said:
So continues the exciting and dramatic decline and fall
of western civilization.... I mourn the loss of skilled
livelihoods and the obscure expertise that make 'magic '
instruments possible but it is inevitable.
Very nicely and poignantly stated. Interesting to make the guitar comparison. That's certainly where all the demand is, public school music programs notwithstanding. In contrast to traditional band instruments, there's been a lot of investment in guitar and amp making over the last couple decades...because that's what everyone from toddlers to aging baby boomers mostly wants to play. If the music made on brass and woodwind instruments were more popular, you can bet the U.S. economy would find a way to make (or at least import) really good ones cost effectively.
 

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Heres what I picture. Civilizations decline is arrested by the re-emergence of strong, centralized socialist governments, who as usual put the good of the people above profit.
Brass instruments would be more popular. Every state run school would participate in annual "Praise for the Glorious Patriotic Heroes of Music Education" celebrations, complete with mandatory marching bands. I picture the proud smiles of the mothers, standing in line for bread as there kids march by.
 
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