[bluecaprice06]

hey all, looking for the best fingering to do the altissimo F#-G# trill in movement I. any suggestions?

 

[tracy285]

Use Fork, 2nd Finger, and Side Bb, for F# lift 2nd finger to trill to G#.

 

[asaxman]

Use Fork, 2nd Finger, and Side Bb, for F# lift 2nd finger to trill to G#.

I agree!

 

[Dannel]

I think if you were to actually follow the trill.... it'd only be to a G natural. I don't think there's a G# in the key signature or in that measure, but it's been a while since I played it. For reasons I can't remember right now, you don't really trill that note anyways..... just like how you're supposed to flutter tongue the other ones that are marked as trilled.

 

[BlueLight]

Yeah I always thought it was F# to G Nat. But I wasn't too sure because I haven't seen the piece in a while.

 

[eronmark]

It is F#-G.

My favorite fingering is:
Left Hand - index finger on B, middle finger on bis
Right Hand, high f# key (C5)

Trill bis.

I have a pdf of some of my altissimo trills on my site if you want to check them out (click on resources).

Erik
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Erik Rönmark
www.concertsaxophonist.com
www.newmusicdetroit.com

 

[ZephyrSax]

It is F#-G.

My favorite fingering is:
Left Hand - index finger on B, middle finger on bis
Right Hand, high f# key (C5)

Trill bis.

I have a pdf of some of my altissimo trills on my site if you want to check them out (click on resources).

Erik
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Erik Rönmark
www.concertsaxophonist.com
www.newmusicdetroit.com

You're an excellent player. Great sound!

What's your setup?

 

[eronmark]

Zephyr,

Thanks for the comment.

Soprano - Selmer III, copper neck, Winslow, Vandoren 4
Alto - Selmer II, silver neck, C*, Vandoren Leather, Vandoren 3.5
Tenor - Selmer III, C*, Winslow, Vandoren 4
Baritone - Selmer II, C*, Winslow, Vandoren 4

Erik

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Erik Rönmark
www.concertsaxophonist.com
www.newmusicdetroit.com

 

[j44breaker]

Thanks for the thread--but as mentioned earlier by Dannel, there seems to be other things that I may be missing in performance practice. For instance, the flutter-tonguing of notes that are otherwise notated as trilled.

Is there a manual as to which instances these happen, or WHY they are what they are? As another example--why does John Edward Kelly slap tongue the section from mm. 94-103? I'd love to insert these into my interpretation, or at least be aware of their existence.

Feel free to PM me.

Cheers!

 

[warp x]

It is F#-G.

My favorite fingering is:
Left Hand - index finger on B, middle finger on bis
Right Hand, high f# key (C5)

Trill bis.

I have a pdf of some of my altissimo trills on my site if you want to check them out (click on resources).

Erik
___________
Erik Rönmark
www.concertsaxophonist.com
www.newmusicdetroit.com

Thanks for that. Very handy, also for a non-classical player. Great resources on your site, and beautiful playing!

 

[Angel]

Erik Rönmark is the man.

 

[macdaddysax26]

Back from the dead!

I like 1-2 G# Ta C5 for F#, 1bis G# Ta C5 for G. Works pretty well.

 

[Jordan Smith]

Thanks for the thread--but as mentioned earlier by Dannel, there seems to be other things that I may be missing in performance practice. For instance, the flutter-tonguing of notes that are otherwise notated as trilled.

Is there a manual as to which instances these happen, or WHY they are what they are? As another example--why does John Edward Kelly slap tongue the section from mm. 94-103? I'd love to insert these into my interpretation, or at least be aware of their existence.

Feel free to PM me.

Cheers!

Yes, and now I think I have some semblance of an answer to this. I have a recording where rascher is fluttering tonguing in place of some of the trills also does slap tongue on some of the staccato notes. This might suggest why JEK was doing that. From what I've heard, it's acceptable to do either.

 

[Buescher]

I remember hearing a discussion at some point that those notes in the Larsson (1st movement?) are supposed to be slap tongued, but, perhaps because of certain choices by the editor, they were omitted and are becoming almost entirely unknown. I also heard that there are similar issues with the Ibert.