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I have been wanting a bari for some time now. Local music store has a silver plated Zephyr with gold wash bell. Some wear and a couple of solder repairs and some small dings. I can walk out the store with this thing for $1495. I played it and it sounds and feels great even with the rather generic mouthpiece it had in the case. I didn't get the sn so I can't accurately put a date on it. How does the price sound to you/
 

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i can't comment on the price, but i woudl check it on a tuner before buying... hopefully it should be fine, but, better safe than sorry.
 

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I would check Ebay completed auctions. The price seems a little high for an older Zephyr. As far as the horn is concerened I've only played one once for a couple of hours, and I thought it was a great horn. Big silky sound and easy to play. Ergos were fair.
I liked it.
 

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One of the best specialists in vintage saxes, baritone and bass clarinets in particular, this side of the Pond - Bruno Waltersbacher, Lahr, Germany - told me some weeks ago he completely stopped selling and buying Zephyr baris 'cause of the constantly poor intonation and linearity. Thus, make a thorough check all over the range of the beast, with your mpc, before making the deal.
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I think the price sounds very good for a silver plated Zephyr! If it needs no work at all, it's a great price!! These horns have a big sound, but as other posters have mentioned, check with a tuner (this is good advice for any horn you're considering).

A good friend of mine here in Chicago plays an old, beat up Zephyr and it sounds fantastic. He even has a special pair of "low A" shoes for the horn. We did a recording, and after a 16 bar percussion breakdown, the band entered on a loud concert C (low A for bari), and I'll be damned if he didn't nail that low A, cold!! Of course, I waited until the take was done to let my jaw drop.
 

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Definitely a good horn, I play a silver Zephyr bari, Jody Jazz ESP mouthpiece and my intonation is great. I adjust differently than I do for my VI bari for sure, but playing in tune is no chore at all to manage, and to keep a big fat sound at the same time.
 

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I kinda disagree with the comment on intonation. Actually...despite what some online "informational" sites suggest...I have found old Kings to be very in the pocket in intonation. Zephs...I haven't ever heard a problem with Zeph BigHorns, myself. I agree, check it on a tuner but I cannot say intonation on these has been bad from my experience of 4 different ones. Different strokes for different folks; perhaps to some the model doesn't have the specificity in intonation they consider as acceptable. But none have struck me as being 'off'.

For a silverplate, if the plating is good (i.e. 80% or so)...and the dings aren't significant and particularly the upper bow and crook are nice and smooth/round...$1495 isn't a bad price. A regular ol' one in lacquer, with the lacq very worn, but horn in good playing shape, usually runs around $900-1000. If the upper bends look a bit icky (dinged, flattened, out of plumb, pulled, etc), then you should be able to talk it down some because those are expensive repairs, unlike the bottom bow or body tube sorta dings/dents; which are easily accessible.

Now, I am just assuming she is a pre-'50's one...opposite bellkeys. Of course, if $1495 is what the store's asking...then offer a bit less. If $1495 is the already-negotiated price, then it's not a bad price assuming the above.
 

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Sorry to wake up an old thread. I have a zephyr baritone here for the moment and checked intonation with a tuner. I found intonation really not bad at 440Hz. Only the palm key notes ((and a bit high c and c#) were very high, but I think that this could be solved with some thicker cork to decrease the key height. Or what do you think?
 

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Sorry to wake up an old thread. I have a zephyr baritone here for the moment and checked intonation with a tuner. I found intonation really not bad at 440Hz. Only the palm key notes ((and a bit high c and c#) were very high, but I think that this could be solved with some thicker cork to decrease the key height. Or what do you think?
I think an awful lot of people set up palm keys too high. I would start out by duplicating, proportionally, the pad heights of the lower pads. Most of my instruments I've lowered palm key pad heights quite a bit. It's real easy to test with some cut-up business cards and scotch tape, or you can cut trial pieces out of the gummed parts of Post It notes and stack them as needed. They're all independent so the adjustment is real easy and easily reversible.

I played an old Zephyr for a while many years ago and it was a great horn. Unfortunately, most of them don't have the front high F key; but fortunately most of them have the fork Eb on the lower stack (the superior implementation).
 
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