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I'm kinda with bandmommy on this one. A King Cleveland 615 is a perfectly good horn for a student, but repair/overhaul prices vary a lot by location - here in the SF Bay Area, you can easily hit $900. At that price, it is a wash between the King and the new Asian horns that seem to get favorable mentions here (Bauhaus Walstein, Kessler, Barone, etc.) On the other hand, if it really only needs $300-$500 or so of work, the King is probably a better deal.

Like Tiberius says, you will likely get the full range of responses from the true believers in 1) vintage American saxes 2) new Asian saxes, and 3) a used Yamaha YTS-23. The first step is to find out how much it will actually cost you to get the King in good playing shape.
 

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ptung - you are responding to the parenthetical and missing (or dodging) the main point. You may be correct that new ROC horns depreciate less than new European or Japanese horns. But the fundamental point of the post is that any new horn is going to depreciate more than a name brand vintage horn.

Consider the OP's position: the horn is for a 12 year old with an uncertain commitment to music, the OP appears to have a constrained budget, he already has the King, and (based on his last post) the King might only need $150 to be made playable.

So he could drop $150 on the King (and likely get more than that if he sold it), or he could drop $900 (Crescent) or $1200 (BW) on one of your horns (and likely take a loss if he sold it). Seems like a pretty easy call. Go with the King for now, and if the kid gets serious over the next few years, he can upgrade then.
 

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artstove - that's only about new saxophones, and it's just to correct a misperception (because it's completely wrong), repeated ad nauseum on this forum.
No problem, and I just wanted to make sure that the applicability to new saxes was clear.
 
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