"I put the first thread in "other woodwind" by mistake and could see no way of deleting it."
CAn you "edit" it, either adding a comment &/or removing most of the contents. All if you are allowed.
Yes, thank you Gordon. Apart from not putting the thread there in the first place what should I have done was edited away all of the text and then left a message directing anyone interested in replying, to my second thread, in the correct sub-forum. My "more practicing, less posting" policy that has resulted in only 126 posts in 5 years means I'm still very capable of making **** ups on here. Away, thanks for your, and the other members' advice regarding the pliers. I'll have to find another way of wasting $65.