For some reason, I don't seem to get anywhere with Vandorens. I've tried every color or letter combination one way or the other. I can't adjust to their numbering system either. I bought some Java's (1.5 and 2) in Seattle (Kennely Keys) for sop and alto. They were expensive (at least a year ago). I actually initially liked them, but then they fell out of circulation. Now I'm on Rigotti's on alto and sop and La Voz on bari. Sure, everybody has his/her sound concept. To me, the Rigotti's were a game changer (Florida era Link 6* on sop and Theo Wanne NY bro's 6 on alto). Then, I landed on the La Voz on bari and was totally sold. To the degree that I'm not even thinking of looking at new mouthpieces (I play Link slant)!!! For me, that is a new world altogether. So, I gave Juno's a chance, but they obviously were not for me...