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I am ordering both to try, anyone have any thoughts or differences between the 2? I am looking for an extremely versatile mpc. One that I can play ballads/bop/funk/rock on

The meyer i have is warm but high register is lacking, the dukoff is bright but low register and control is lacking

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I am ordering both to try, anyone have any thoughts or differences between the 2? I am looking for an extremely versatile mpc. One that I can play ballads/bop/funk/rock on

The meyer i have is warm but high register is lacking, the dukoff is bright but low register and control is lacking

thanks
Go with a Java.
 

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i played a jumbo for years before I knew they were supposed to be so edgy...
I played bebop,pop,big band and ballads on it. I got compliments everytime on my big sound...

Try them both with out preconceptions....based on keyboard internet anonymous sax players
 

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Hey Dave, Thanks. I still always do go in objectively when looking for something new. I just figured it would be nice to get some others experiences. Really without that, you could literally go through thousands of anything. Opinions always help. There never the tell all but they at least help shorten the list sometimes. Speaking the odds - if 100 people write in that they hate the Jumbo but loved the reg Java... and 1 Person loved the Jumbo and hated the regular chances are.....you get the picture. Not to mention its nice to hear about others trials and success stories.
 

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I agree with Benbyrne, the Jumbo on Tenor was super bright. If it is that way on Tenor, it will only be worse on Alto. Good luck though.

You got G.A.S. man.
 

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Heck I sounded WAY bright and edgy on my Jumbo Java...gave it to my friend and he actually gets just a slightly bright sound. Everyone's different.
 

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I got myself a Java after playing on a Meyer for ages, and was pleasantly surprised at how much brighter it was, without getting too bright and shirll. I still love my old meyer, but when i need to rock a bit more I just stick on my Java. However for playing ballads and whatnot I always go with my meyer.
By the way, I know what you mean when you say the Meyer is a bit harder in the high range. For me the Java plays much easier up high.
 

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I got g.a.s.?? Ok someone fill me in, Im still a newbie to this forum.lol


Yeah the meyers fine in the lower register, but if I really want to scream in the top end, forget it. Soon as I get to e3 or above its an issue.

Im planning on going tommorow to try whatever is in stock at the local sam ash. looking at dimensions does anyone think that the a45 java would be a resonable step from my current Meyer/Dukoff? I think that size makes the most sense.
 

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ahhhhhhh.:D

Yes I apparently do.

Hopefully this will be cured shortly though. I wouldnt want this to be a life-long disease. I know way too many people that are seemingly never satisfied and wind up with 101 mouthpieces or whatevers.:?

I rarely make a change, but when I do I tend to do my reasearch first b4 just buying. (Drives my wife crazy lol!!)
 

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I have a Blue Java and I've tried a Blue Jumbo Java on tenor. The pieces are radically different the Jumbo is bright and loud, the Java has the capability of being bright when pushed but I have the ambition to use it for ballads and things as such.
Having said that I think that if your ambition is to play lead alto in a big band or playing funky you'll be pleasantly suprised from the Jumbo improving perhaps on your Dukoff. If you want a softer sound perhaps the Java would improve on your Meyer... .

We all have GAS from time to time, stay away from beans for a while :D
 

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I have couple of things that I am doing now I am the only horn player in both so I dont need to worry about blending with a section.1) is a blues/funk group. All electric guitars and such. the other is more of a Jazz trio doing alot of standards and such but usually with a little more contemporary feel rather than traditional. So Im trying to find that middle where I can compete with the electric and still sound "warm and cozy" when I need to.

Man this GAS hurts sometimes.....:cry:
 

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Give a shot at the Jumbo Java (If you find a blue one even better) then probably will give you a good piece. I can't imagine you could play ballads on it but otherwise, go for it.

Deflatine should take some of the pressure off your belly, plenty of charcoal tablets too :)
 

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Give a shot at the Jumbo Java... probably will give you a good piece. I can't imagine you could play ballads on it....
Like the Count says, everyone's different. When I want to do ballads on my jumbo, I just back off a touch. It has a nice complex sound - not shrill like some other loud high baffled pieces (I have an A75). Just try it.
 

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Jumbo Java, the Piece!

I was once a completely mistaken alto sax player that found its beautiful Berg Larsen never made again. New ones never did it as old ones. Those made in England were, for me, the best pieces around.

Then, I tried Jumbo Javas and a lot more of pieces. A lot!

At the beguining I even emailed Vandoren complaining about the mouthpiece I cannot live without.

Mine is an A45 that allows me to play any balad I want, any Rock that I want and goes gently from subtone Bb1 to altissimo C5 and willing to tear down a wall.

Believe in yourself, a mouthpiece makes a difference, but having more punch allows you to play softly... and the player has a lot more influence than anything else...

If interested, the best combo I have found for the Jumbo Java A45 is the Plasticover 3 (sometimes I give Javas 3 a chance) and the Optimum Ligature.

All the best,

JI
 

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Thanks JI, I was going to ask some for some responses on ligs too. I have a bonnade that I will bring with me to try some out, but also have a rovner L6 on order. But the site reccomends the vandoren lig for the pcs. So I guess trial and error. Man this is alot of work! I still have to work on doing some recordings of myself too, aparently with myspace and everything else now everyone wants a sample. geez.
 

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I use my Blue Java with a Optimum ligature.....what else? Seriously, I've tried rovners but they are muffling the sound. I've been experimenting with all the plates but , at the moment, I like the stripy one (can't remember the number or name). By the way yesterday I've started using the Java with Fibracell .....I like it, so far. It cured immediately some sqeuaking which has been affecting my playing since I use this piece.
 

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SuperDave said:
Try them both with out preconceptions....based on keyboard internet anonymous sax players
Fair point but...

You want opinions which is why you asked right?

It's the Java all the way for me! I did try them both (on a YAS 62 incidently) and would have bought nothing if they only had the jumbo.
They are that different.
 
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