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Here is the situation...
I have been gigging playing sax and a little acoustic guitar with a rocknroll band for the past 4 months (I play guitars and piano in other bands here and there that seldomly gig). Rock and roll to me runs from the soulful/bluesy Rolling Stones to bluesy blues to funky stuff like Always on the Run by Lenny Kravitz. I don't play on the Zepellin tunes. The originals are pretty good.
They are quite good and I am improving, it is a lot of fun.
The singer is soulful, the drummer is great and the bass player lays it down nicely.
The two guitarists are very different. One plays with a ton of feeling, sounds great. The other is technically great, flashy, fast and with much less soul and feeling (the band has been together for 10 years, he has been with them for 1 year).
At gigs, it is interesting to see that the crowd likes both, soulful or flashy.
The guys in the band however feel it is not a good fit. This was realized by recording some originals and listening to a groovin' song, but solos were out of place. It seems like he doesn't hear the rest of the band getting funky and grooving- his solos are always ripping, not the mood of the songs. This made me think/feel, 'I do not want to record and put this out with his playing'. I won't be proud of it. Other band members echoed what I thought, one likes having the guitar players with very different styles.
So, he has been asked to lay back, settle down, play smoothe, listen more etc. Unfortunately, he is type A personality(everything is a competition etc.) and gets angry when we try to speak about it.
Can we really tell someone how to play?
Can this be taught? (playing soulfully with feeling, not just playing notes)
How do you tell someone it isn't the right fit, we are letting you go? (in addition, his brother is the bass player:shock: ).
Is it worth trying to work with someone or better/easier to move on?
I'd love to hear comments, experiences and thoughts....
I have been gigging playing sax and a little acoustic guitar with a rocknroll band for the past 4 months (I play guitars and piano in other bands here and there that seldomly gig). Rock and roll to me runs from the soulful/bluesy Rolling Stones to bluesy blues to funky stuff like Always on the Run by Lenny Kravitz. I don't play on the Zepellin tunes. The originals are pretty good.
They are quite good and I am improving, it is a lot of fun.
The singer is soulful, the drummer is great and the bass player lays it down nicely.
The two guitarists are very different. One plays with a ton of feeling, sounds great. The other is technically great, flashy, fast and with much less soul and feeling (the band has been together for 10 years, he has been with them for 1 year).
At gigs, it is interesting to see that the crowd likes both, soulful or flashy.
The guys in the band however feel it is not a good fit. This was realized by recording some originals and listening to a groovin' song, but solos were out of place. It seems like he doesn't hear the rest of the band getting funky and grooving- his solos are always ripping, not the mood of the songs. This made me think/feel, 'I do not want to record and put this out with his playing'. I won't be proud of it. Other band members echoed what I thought, one likes having the guitar players with very different styles.
So, he has been asked to lay back, settle down, play smoothe, listen more etc. Unfortunately, he is type A personality(everything is a competition etc.) and gets angry when we try to speak about it.
Can we really tell someone how to play?
Can this be taught? (playing soulfully with feeling, not just playing notes)
How do you tell someone it isn't the right fit, we are letting you go? (in addition, his brother is the bass player:shock: ).
Is it worth trying to work with someone or better/easier to move on?
I'd love to hear comments, experiences and thoughts....