Post some pictures- I'm sure someone on here can help.
I bought an Italian Tenor Sax - I cant find any reference to it on line
The Tenor looks like new: pads,brass, case - it looks to me like it is brand new. Or, it has been completely refurbished.
The extensive stensil or printing on the bell says "DeLeo"
It also has on the back - Made in Italy.
Does anyone know anything about this Tenor Sax?
Please help
The extensive stensil or printing on the bell says "DeLeo"
It also has on the back - Made in Italy.
Does anyone know anything about this Tenor Sax?
Please help
1 - 20 of 24 Posts
Why would you buy something that you have no idea about?
Pics or it didn’t happen 🤣 seriously though; the folks who are really good at identifying odd brand and unmarked saxes need some pictures to help you out.
The company that comes to my mind is Orsi because they made a lot of stencils. Pics that show things like the pinky table and other features in more detail would pin it down. I am betting though that if you search a bunch of Orsi tenor saxophone pics you might find it.
Neck too; Front and side views to reveal the mechanism and any other tells.The company that comes to my mind is Orsi because they made a lot of stencils. Pics that show things like the pinky table and other features in more detail would pin it down. I am betting though that if you search a bunch of Orsi tenor saxophone pics you might find it.
the bell to body brace I've not seen before.
Neither have I. But that doesn't mean too much. Unfortunately, the photographs are low resolution / too small to show any relevant details. In addition to the details requested above, please post close ups of the octave key and body mechanism as well as the neck and the octave mechanism there. Pinky table for both left and right hand are often tell tales for the manufacturer.the bell to body brace I've not seen before.
If it is really made in Italy, it will narrow down the options, but I am also leaning towards Orsi.
I'm inclined to agree based upon the characteristics of the key guards - and yes - the images offered are too few.If it is really made in Italy, it will narrow down the options, but I am also leaning towards Orsi.
As others said, detailed pictures of the keywork, especially the left and right hand pinky keys, the neck octave key, and also the location and style of the serial number stamping and even the style of the Made in Italy stamping will help.
The bell brace is rather unusual and actually I don't think it's going to be an Orsi (the bell brace, G# key shape, etc look different from many Orsis). It is reminiscent of the saxophone linked here, with an oval bell brace: Is my Orpheum Deluxe a Rampone & Cazzani stencil?
an Orpheum Deluxe that was said to be by Rampone & Cazzani, by people who know more than me. If it has that unusual part-plastic thumbhook, that would be a tell.
The bell brace is rather unusual and actually I don't think it's going to be an Orsi (the bell brace, G# key shape, etc look different from many Orsis). It is reminiscent of the saxophone linked here, with an oval bell brace: Is my Orpheum Deluxe a Rampone & Cazzani stencil?
an Orpheum Deluxe that was said to be by Rampone & Cazzani, by people who know more than me. If it has that unusual part-plastic thumbhook, that would be a tell.
Your link isn't working for me, here is repost of it. Is my Orpheum Deluxe a Rampone & Cazzani stencil?. Also a pic of the sax in that post.As others said, detailed pictures of the keywork, especially the left and right hand pinky keys, the neck octave key, and also the location and style of the serial number stamping and even the style of the Made in Italy stamping will help.
The bell brace is rather unusual and actually I don't think it's going to be an Orsi (the bell brace, G# key shape, etc look different from many Orsis). It is reminiscent of the saxophone linked here, with an oval bell brace: Is my Orpheum Deluxe a Rampone & Cazzani stencil?
an Orpheum Deluxe that was said to be by Rampone & Cazzani, by people who know more than me. If it has that unusual part-plastic thumbhook, that would be a tell.
yeah = looks like a decent enough match to me
not your business.Why would you buy something that you have no idea about?
Well, when it gets posted on a forum like this, it gets to be everyone's business and opinions are being asked for
Yeah could be R&C. Is the thumb hook plastic and a bit strange-shaped ? ORSI is also reasonable guess; pic of neck would determine that as Orsi tenor necks are very uniquely shaped in the tube, while R&C are more conventionally shaped....
You see horns like this labeled 'Warner' every now and then....the brace appears now and again....and they appear under a variety of other stencil names.
Might be hard to peg the exact maker, could have something to do with Santoni as well. These were basically horns assembled by someone, somewhere in Southern-ish Europe out of parts provided by some European parts mfr (could have been France, could have been Italy - Malernes, Santonis, Grassis and old Rampones show some of teh same keywork and details - then some different), so they show up and have similarities to one another.
Here is GOOD news : although obscure, these are quality saxes 90% of the time. Built well, sound great, ergos are as acceptable as most other vintage horns of the same era (I guess that era would be 60's-70's in your instance).
IF it plays, good on ya'....worth maybe $600 on the used market. If it doesn't play, oh well, but worth investing maybe $300 or so to have a tech make it reasonably playable.
Most would say if your total investment starts exceeding $650-750 (that is acquisition price plus servicing price)....you may not want to spring for the servicing because when you hit $800-ish, you could get a vintage horn in very good tack of a recognizable/reputed name brand.
If you like, contact Claudio Zolla at Rampone Cazzani and send some pics. He can confirm for you whether it's one of theirs, and if so probably give you a production era. Find the R&C website, use teh contact email or form and send message to ATTN: Claudio Z.
You see horns like this labeled 'Warner' every now and then....the brace appears now and again....and they appear under a variety of other stencil names.
Might be hard to peg the exact maker, could have something to do with Santoni as well. These were basically horns assembled by someone, somewhere in Southern-ish Europe out of parts provided by some European parts mfr (could have been France, could have been Italy - Malernes, Santonis, Grassis and old Rampones show some of teh same keywork and details - then some different), so they show up and have similarities to one another.
Here is GOOD news : although obscure, these are quality saxes 90% of the time. Built well, sound great, ergos are as acceptable as most other vintage horns of the same era (I guess that era would be 60's-70's in your instance).
IF it plays, good on ya'....worth maybe $600 on the used market. If it doesn't play, oh well, but worth investing maybe $300 or so to have a tech make it reasonably playable.
Most would say if your total investment starts exceeding $650-750 (that is acquisition price plus servicing price)....you may not want to spring for the servicing because when you hit $800-ish, you could get a vintage horn in very good tack of a recognizable/reputed name brand.
If you like, contact Claudio Zolla at Rampone Cazzani and send some pics. He can confirm for you whether it's one of theirs, and if so probably give you a production era. Find the R&C website, use teh contact email or form and send message to ATTN: Claudio Z.
NOT an Orsi. That is for sure. R&C is my guess without more pics.
No, OP wasn't asking for opinions, just help identifying it. We don't know the situation of how it was acquired. I could imagine myself jumping on this for $300, maybe more, if I came across it, picked it up and determined it was playable or nearly so.Well, when it gets posted on a forum like this, it gets to be everyone's business and opinions are being asked for
No. Why he bought it is none of our business. That has nothing to do with what it is.Well, when it gets posted on a forum like this, it gets to be everyone's business and opinions are being asked for
Personally...I think the question as to why someone would buy a sax which they do not know the true maker of...isn't an unreasonable question. It might not be on point, but neither are 60% of SOTW thread replies 😅.
This 'argument' is a bit digressive, it'd be nice for folks to realease their grasp on it, maybe.
@Scott Collins ...DO you own the horn or is it just one for sale that you came across.
It DOES LOOK nice, but you need to get confirmation that it is actually in good play-condition...aesthetics mean little when ascertaining this.
Is it local to you (if not in your possession already) ? Do you play sax now ? Is your desire to play, or just sell it and you want to know the maker and value ? Etc.
This 'argument' is a bit digressive, it'd be nice for folks to realease their grasp on it, maybe.
@Scott Collins ...DO you own the horn or is it just one for sale that you came across.
It DOES LOOK nice, but you need to get confirmation that it is actually in good play-condition...aesthetics mean little when ascertaining this.
Is it local to you (if not in your possession already) ? Do you play sax now ? Is your desire to play, or just sell it and you want to know the maker and value ? Etc.
1 - 20 of 24 Posts
Sax on the Web Forum
A forum community dedicated to saxophone players and enthusiasts originally founded by Harri Rautiainen. Come join the discussion about collections, care, displays, models, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!
Full Forum Listing
Recommended Communities
