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http://www.davidbinney.com/

Check this player out....
I just saw him live last Sunday at the Montreal jaZZ Festival. He is totally sick, I have never heard anything like it. I have witnessed Kenny Garret in full flight and he is not close to Binney.
He is a total monster, he can bitch just about any player I can think off and he does not even break into a sweat when in full flight. He does not even seem to be expending any effort!

Binney plays with Chris Potter on a CD so check them out.
Potter is my undisputed tenor player, Binney my new alto god.
 

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I wouldn't say Kenny Garrett isn't close. I would say head to head, I would give Garrett the edge in fact, given that I have seen Garrett play Giant Steps live, and to this day have no clue how it is humanly possible to do what he did that night.

This Binney guy has chops though, and he can play. Nothing against him. Just that when it gets to a certain level, saying one is better than the other by a huge margin is kind of silly.

I think the only thing that would push one or the other to that, "He's better" land would be personal preference.
 

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great to hear such a strong recommendation...I'd been equivocating about catching Binney's weekly gig in Manhattan...now I will make sure to check it out.
 

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Binney is my favorite modern saxophonist and he is just as great as a composer as he is a player! He really doesn't get the recognition he deserves... Everyone should really check him out... his concept is so fresh.

I listen to his albums "South" and "Bastion of Sanity" almost everyday and I just received three more of his cds from Amazon today, including his newest release "Oceanos" (I am loading my Ipod right now).

He website is also very cool... lots of soundclips, plus he sells recordings of his gigs and transcriptions of his tunes for download....

I hope I can make a trip to see him live soon.... Glad to see someone else on this forum digs him! :)
 

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joelsp said:
I wouldn't say Kenny Garrett isn't close. I would say head to head, I would give Garrett the edge in fact, given that I have seen Garrett play Giant Steps live, and to this day have no clue how it is humanly possible to do what he did that night.
Never seen Garret play Giant Steps but I gotta believe it would not be much of a challenge for Binney!
Never said he was better just saying in a show down his playing style would leave Garret behind. As stated I also have witnessed Garret in what I believe was full flight, at the time it left me breathless but I understood most of what he was doing. With Binney I just sat back and thought what the [email protected]# is this, how is he doing this.

Similar to Tenor Madness you can argue back and forth and it has been done on this forum as to who out played the other. I think Trane came out on top in that shoot out just because of the way the 2 players styles matched up.

Just seems Binneys style meshes well with what Potter has been advancing towards the past couple of years.

I attended the J Redmen concert as well and was blown away that he also seems to have changed his style and seemed to be moving towards that hard driving and aggressive style that Potter has. JR was nowhere near as up front as Potter but his audience is not the same as Potters.
Just like Garrets main audience is not Binneys.

When you saw Garret unleash Giant Steps was it a small venue, if it was at a concert did he follow it up with that style of play or go back to more standard playing.
Binney hung on for a hour and a half and he was not being pushed because the tenor player André Leroux http://www.quebecscene.ca/en/events/eventDetails.asp?eventID=230 amazing very much a Potter style of player but was not a challenge to Binney.
It seemed like Binney was playing half throttle and yet totally out there.
 

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Binney is awesome. Truly. I was just listening to the new Donny Mccasslin CD with him on it. He's smokin' alright. I really like the live stuff he did with Uri Caine's Mahler group. Art Salt, you definitely gotta check him out. I had a friend who was studying with him down there too. He may live in Brooklyn as well.
 

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Never seen Garret play Giant Steps but I gotta believe it would not be much of a challenge for Binney!
Never said he was better just saying in a show down his playing style would leave Garret behind. As stated I also have witnessed Garret in what I believe was full flight, at the time it left me breathless but I understood most of what he was doing. With Binney I just sat back and thought what the [email protected]# is this, how is he doing this.

Similar to Tenor Madness you can argue back and forth and it has been done on this forum as to who out played the other. I think Trane came out on top in that shoot out just because of the way the 2 players styles matched up.

Just seems Binneys style meshes well with what Potter has been advancing towards the past couple of years.

I attended the J Redmen concert as well and was blown away that he also seems to have changed his style and seemed to be moving towards that hard driving and aggressive style that Potter has. JR was nowhere near as up front as Potter but his audience is not the same as Potters.
Just like Garrets main audience is not Binneys.

When you saw Garret unleash Giant Steps was it a small venue, if it was at a concert did he follow it up with that style of play or go back to more standard playing.
Binney hung on for a hour and a half and he was not being pushed because the tenor player André Leroux http://www.quebecscene.ca/en/events/eventDetails.asp?eventID=230 amazing very much a Potter style of player but was not a challenge to Binney.
It seemed like Binney was playing half throttle and yet totally out there.
I think you have totally missed my point.

Binney would never "leave Garrett behind" give me a break man. Nor would Garrett leave Binney behind.

They are colossal players, the only reason you probably don't "get" Binney is probably because you are new to him. You are clearly in some form of honeymoon phase here.

Again, they are both amazing, and at this level saying one is better than the other is just plain silly.
 
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