Sax on the Web Forum banner
1 - 6 of 6 Posts

· Distinguished SOTW Member
Joined
·
2,011 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Should it take a little while when you change from Metal to HR for your emboucher to dial in??? are they much different

Thanks Steve
 

· Forum Contributor 2011, SOTW's pedantic pet rodent
Joined
·
8,233 Posts
Probably, but not because of the materials the m/p is made of but rather because of the differences there might be in internal and external dimensions of the mouthpiece. The most immediately relevant would be the tip opening, i think.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Member, Forum Contributor 2008
Joined
·
4,008 Posts
Yeah it will take time to adjust to the bigger beak of the mouthpiece. Keep working at it. According to the late great Ralph Morgan HR produces about 30% more sound.

I'm currently trying my dangdest to make the switch myself to HR Links and Selmer Soloists type pieces from metal Links.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
500 Posts
The beak on a HR piece can be both broader and have a "taller" bite -- which I tend to like as it seems to help me play with a rounder, more "open", less "biting" embouchure. Of course there's probably a reason for the different beak design, influencing the way your embouchure is set up to go for a different effect (sound). This in addition to the (probably) different internal dimensions. Also of course, it's possible to have the same internal dimensions between the two (I believe the Ponzol HR Custom is an example that is similar to one or the other of the Ponzol "M-series" metal pieces), and yet one is made of HR and the other metal. Chances are the HR will still have larger external dimensions.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Member
Joined
·
2,011 Posts
Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Thanks guys I am going from Metal Links to a Barone Vintage HR..I love the tone but find myself closing off the tip a bit or I just am having a bad batch of reeds ...not sure but it is only day 3 on this new mpc and I want to stick it out as my upper register sounds so much warmer and full with this mpc

Steve
 

· Distinguished SOTW Member, Forum Contributor 2008
Joined
·
4,008 Posts
The the big factor for me was recording myself with the HR pieces. The sound is warmer and like you the palm keys and higher are fuller sounding. Of course there's a certain amount of built in resistance.

The more open oral cavity with HR actually makes it a smidge harder to control the altissimo due to the oral cavity being more open. A smaller oral cavity speads up the air stream with small beaked metal mouthpiece. The throat also has to work harder with HR and it takes awhile to develop the muscle to push. Of course there are HR pieces that have a slim profile if you need that.

YMMV.
 
1 - 6 of 6 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top