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I just got my King Cleveland 613 alto back from repair. It had the palm keys plus E# re-padded and got a lube job. It never played well and I can certainly detect an improvement since I can play all the notes now(could barely play mid D before).

Should it still sound REALLY bad compared to my Yanagisawa A-991? Of course the mechanics are WAY different...

I was hoping to leave the King at work to get more practice time in but now I'm not sure if that will be a good idea. At least I can work on my embrochure but I'm wondering if it will actually hurt my technique to learn how to play the King better...

I'm just wondering if it is at all possible to make one of these sound decent...

I kind of wish I knew how much this thing was holding me back when I got it at 12 years old... :| I would have spent my paper route money on a new horn instead of video games!!!
 

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Dang, I guess I should have posted this under "General Saxophone Discussion->Eb"!

EDIT by kcp: Done :)
 

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OK it seems better today. The mechanics sure do take some getting used to! Especially the palm keys!

My main problem now is that I can't seem to tune it! If I get C# in tune, the rest of the notes are out of tune! and If I tune it for mid D to F#(that is possible!), C# is more than 40 cents flat!
Is there any hope for this thing?

The only thing that I can guess is there might still be a leak high up, which is why the rest of the notes are out of tune when C# is in tune... :?

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I learned to play sax on a king 613 in the mid '70s. Nice enough tone out of these saxes but ergonomics were quite bad. It was like night and day differance in feel when I bought my Selmer USA pro alto in 1988 to replace it. The Selmer USA fit might hands like a glove. No more stumbling over keys to play fast. I was so spoiled by the feel of my Selmer (paris)super action 80 series I baritone(bought in dec '84 as a graduation/xmas gift),that I replaced my Selmer signet tenor and king 613 alto w/ a Selmer USA pro tenor and alto in 1988.
 

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C# is usually flat on saxes. Selmer even makes a harmonic key on their series III for the C#. Not sure if it works for the mid C# but I know it works for the high one. Mid Ds are usually sharp on all saxes. I believe mid E and F are as well.
 
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