Take it to a reputable repair technician and have them have a look at it.
New horns often go out of adjustment from shipping and then sitting around.
New horns often go out of adjustment from shipping and then sitting around.
High Tones New Sax
Hello.
I am learning to play sax since one year. I began with an Alto Prelude AS700 by Conn-Selmer. With that horn I can to play all the second octave high notes. However I changed it for a new Alto Yamaha Yas-23. I found this new horn has a more brillant sound but I have problem to play from second octave D# to above. I mean I get to D in the second octave but it is very difficult to get the following notes. With the Yas-23 I must to play first the D natural then the F natural and then to back to the E.
Sometimes I can play that notes, but other times, when a want to tongue, I only get the D. But if I don't tongue and I make an effort, it play the high notes.
I don't know if the Yas-23 has a defect or if I must to adapt myself to the new horn. I have read in the forum Yas-23 are better than Prelude AS700. May be the Yas-23 is harder. May be it is a new horn and it is a matter of time.
In all case, since I've just bought the sax, I am worried. So I would like to ask you about your experience and opinion about gettint high notes in new horns and specifically the Yas-23.
Thank you in advance
David
I am learning to play sax since one year. I began with an Alto Prelude AS700 by Conn-Selmer. With that horn I can to play all the second octave high notes. However I changed it for a new Alto Yamaha Yas-23. I found this new horn has a more brillant sound but I have problem to play from second octave D# to above. I mean I get to D in the second octave but it is very difficult to get the following notes. With the Yas-23 I must to play first the D natural then the F natural and then to back to the E.
Sometimes I can play that notes, but other times, when a want to tongue, I only get the D. But if I don't tongue and I make an effort, it play the high notes.
I don't know if the Yas-23 has a defect or if I must to adapt myself to the new horn. I have read in the forum Yas-23 are better than Prelude AS700. May be the Yas-23 is harder. May be it is a new horn and it is a matter of time.
In all case, since I've just bought the sax, I am worried. So I would like to ask you about your experience and opinion about gettint high notes in new horns and specifically the Yas-23.
Thank you in advance
David
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High tones New Sax
Since there is not any technician in this city I haved tested with different reeds. In short, with the Plasticover 2 1/2 reed is easier to get the high notes. But with a Rico 2 1/2 reed it is very difficult.
My problem is I don't like the plasticover reeds. Do you know something about adjusting reeds?
Thank you in advance.
Thank you Littlemanbighorn.littlemanbighorn said:Take it to a reputable repair technician and have them have a look at it.
New horns often go out of adjustment from shipping and then sitting around.
Since there is not any technician in this city I haved tested with different reeds. In short, with the Plasticover 2 1/2 reed is easier to get the high notes. But with a Rico 2 1/2 reed it is very difficult.
My problem is I don't like the plasticover reeds. Do you know something about adjusting reeds?
Thank you in advance.
Hi David,
First, what kind of mouthpiece are you using?
Second, do you have a teacher? If so, did you get him or her to try your horn?
First, what kind of mouthpiece are you using?
Second, do you have a teacher? If so, did you get him or her to try your horn?
Hi David,David Beane said:Hi David,
First, what kind of mouthpiece are you using?
Second, do you have a teacher? If so, did you get him or her to try your horn?
I am using the 4C Yamaha mouthpiece it came with the sax.
If I try with the other 4* mouthpiece, it is the same problem.
Nop, I don't have a teacher. I know I have a lot of gaps because of I don't have a teacher. I don't have a friend who plays the sax either.
I am not sure about a horn problem because of I recently found I can get the high notes with a 2 1/2 Plasticover reed but with a not plasticover 2 1/2 reed it is very difficult. I fell I need a lot of air.
Thank you in advance.
David
you need a leak light. i'm sure there is a leak.musicmedic.com has one or you can make your own. you'll need a small screw driver like the ones to repair glasses. lucky for you the yamaha has adjustment screws for most all the keys. just follow the rods and you will see. try to find the leaks in a dark room with light pressure. i suspect the problem is with the f bridge area.
Have you tried a rico 2?. My yamaha is less freeblowing on the high notes than my other horn, but it compensates by having a lovely tone. Not all horns are good at everything! Dont feel under pressure to blow 2.5 reeds, if 2's sound OK then stick with them, I can still get a nice tone out of them.
Don't tense up or bite on those top notes, try and develop a relaxed but firm embouchure, and don't blow too hard or you will go sharp. It takes time and practice. I deliberately choose songs with lots of high notes, it helps with my tone generally.
Good luck.
Don't tense up or bite on those top notes, try and develop a relaxed but firm embouchure, and don't blow too hard or you will go sharp. It takes time and practice. I deliberately choose songs with lots of high notes, it helps with my tone generally.
Good luck.
After reading this, the first thing I thought of is a Leak. Something at the higher end of the horn, can affect a D. Also you might consider changing the mouthpieces. I would first take it to a tech though to see if their are any leaks. If their aren't then it could be the mouthpiece/reed/ligature combo.David Zamora said:Hello.
I am learning to play sax since one year. I began with an Alto Prelude AS700 by Conn-Selmer. With that horn I can to play all the second octave high notes. However I changed it for a new Alto Yamaha Yas-23. I found this new horn has a more brillant sound but I have problem to play from second octave D# to above. I mean I get to D in the second octave but it is very difficult to get the following notes. With the Yas-23 I must to play first the D natural then the F natural and then to back to the E.
Sometimes I can play that notes, but other times, when a want to tongue, I only get the D. But if I don't tongue and I make an effort, it play the high notes.
I don't know if the Yas-23 has a defect or if I must to adapt myself to the new horn. I have read in the forum Yas-23 are better than Prelude AS700. May be the Yas-23 is harder. May be it is a new horn and it is a matter of time.
In all case, since I've just bought the sax, I am worried. So I would like to ask you about your experience and opinion about gettint high notes in new horns and specifically the Yas-23.
Thank you in advance
David
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