[MitchSugginah]

This damn dual stand has me really pissed off.
If you remove the tenor leaving the soprano in the stand
it will fall...this has happened multiple times despite attempt
to shore up the base of the thing.
I do NOT recommend it to anyone.
Steer clear of this one.

 

[Hassles]

Are you referring to straight or curved soprano? I don't use soprano but reckon' Hercules are the better sax stands available. I have singles and doubles (two alto / two tenor / alto & tenor)

 

[milandro]

As much as I like Hercules for most applications, I think that there is little doubt that Saxraks offers a better construction when it comes to a multiple sax construction, but price is certainly higher

 

[Hassles]

I bought a saxrax triple (for tenor, alto and curved soprano) only because Hercules doesn't make one. If Hercules did I would not have bought the Saxrax. IMHO - the Hercules is the better design.

 

[milandro]

( I see you wanted a triple with curved soprano)

I think that Hercules does make one which will fit alto, tenor, soprano, + flute and clarinet (if needed)

 

[Hassles]

yep - great unit by Hercules. I thought about welding a single to a double - this would be fine for home but not so great for transportation - to the gig. There are also plenty of (horrid) Hercules copies about too - I mean cheap n' nasty. I think the Hercules are well designed, well constructed and offer good value for money. These are the only things I use. The saxrax was a gift to a young player. She likes it. With the saxrax we (her father and I) needed to bend the sax bell holder inwards to accommodate the soprano and bend it outwards to accommodate the tenor. It was very difficult getting that curve correct and as we know - not all saxophones were / are created equal.

 

[Taragot]

Does your stand turn over when the weight of the tenor is missing? Could you provide a link on which stand exactly this does happen? I'm happy with my quintupler stand (alto, tenor, soprano sax flute) but the base is much wider of course.

 

[Nefertiti]

( I see you wanted a triple with curved soprano)

I think that Hercules does make one which will fit alto, tenor, soprano, + flute and clarinet (if needed)

I have this stand and love it. The only thing you have to be careful of is the small parts that hold the body can flip up when you pick up the sax and if you don't pay attention and try to put it back without flipping those down the sax won't be held well and may even contact the metal of the stand. Even in this photo above you can see the left small part is in the proper position and the right one is flipped up.

 

[Nefertiti]

I have this stand and love it. The only thing you have to be careful of is the small parts that hold the body can flip up when you pick up the sax and if you don't pay attention and try to put it back without flipping those down the sax won't be held well and may even contact the metal of the stand. Even in this photo above you can see the left small part is in the proper position and the right one is flipped up.

Actually, now that I think about it, you can probably tighten those so much that they don't flip up. I should look to see if I can do that........

 

[mmichel]

Actually, now that I think about it, you can probably tighten those so much that they don't flip up. I should look to see if I can do that........

Yes, that's what I did with my stand. The downside is that, once you tighten it, you can no longer switch easily between the "alto" (i.e., high) and "tenor" (i.e., low) positions, but this wasn't really a problem for me, and it solved the problem.

Regarding the OP's comment, I've used the "single" version of this stand with tenor and a (straight) soprano or a clarinet many times, and I've never found the stand to exhibit any instability when I removed the tenor.

If the OP is using the height-adjustable Hercules soprano/Flugel peg, I imagine it could be a problem if the peg is set at the top possible height. I tend to use it near its lowest possible setting.

 

[Nefertiti]

Yes, that's what I did with my stand. The downside is that, once you tighten it, you can no longer switch easily between the "alto" (i.e., high) and "tenor" (i.e., low) positions, but this wasn't really a problem for me, and it solved the problem.

Regarding the OP's comment, I've used the "single" version of this stand with tenor and a (straight) soprano or a clarinet many times, and I've never found the stand to exhibit any instability when I removed the tenor.

If the OP is using the height-adjustable Hercules soprano/Flugel peg, I imagine it could be a problem if the peg is set at the top possible height. I tend to use it near it's lowest possible setting.

I bought and used that larger version of the stand for gigs even if I was just playing tenor. I'm always concerned about safety and protecting my sax so I figure with wider base support it would be more stable and beside that, musicians that are sometimes drunk will have an easier time seeing the stand and my sax if it is bigger. My other rule is that I always put the stand in the most protective spot. If I am playing a drunk bar gig I put the stand behind me and I am like a bouncer making sure no drunk dancers fall into it. It has happened many times where I have had to catch someone falling or tripping.

 

[Taragot]

This damn dual stand has me really pissed off.
If you remove the tenor leaving the soprano in the stand
it will fall...this has happened multiple times despite attempt
to shore up the base of the thing.
I do NOT recommend it to anyone.
Steer clear of this one.

Too much ranting and too less information for my taste.

Which exact dual stand from hercules do you have? I'm not aware of a double stand from hercules for soprano and tenor. Curved or straight soprano? If curved, did you perhaps use the double stand for alto/tenor? https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds537b_double_sax_stand.htm

If straight - did you attach the soprano peg to one of the black legs?
https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds530b_saxstaender_alttenor.htm
On a single stand it should be screwed to the yellow centre, likely to prevent it from being unstable.
https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds531b_flgh_soprano_stand.htm
How does the soprano fall? Does the whole stand turn over? Does the soprano fall out of the stand? Did the base move when you take out your tenor? Perhaps the fork for the tenor is too narrow?
It would be helpful to give at least some of these infos.

 

[Nefertiti]

Too much ranting and too less information for my taste.

Which exact dual stand from hercules do you have? I'm not aware of a double stand from hercules for soprano and tenor. Curved or straight soprano? If curved, did you perhaps use the double stand for alto/tenor? https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds537b_double_sax_stand.htm

If straight - did you attach the soprano peg to one of the black legs?
https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds530b_saxstaender_alttenor.htm
On a single stand it should be screwed to the yellow centre, likely to prevent it from being unstable.
https://www.thomann.de/de/hercules_stands_ds531b_flgh_soprano_stand.htm
How does the soprano fall? Does the whole stand turn over? Does the soprano fall out of the stand? Did the base move when you take out your tenor? Perhaps the fork for the tenor is too narrow?
It would be helpful to give at least some of these infos.

Those are good questions. If it is a straight soprano and you were using a flute peg or clarinet peg instead of the soprano sax peg I can see how the soprano would lean a bit and might pull the stand over.

 

[turf3]

Too much ranting and too less information for my taste.

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Actually, NO information. Are you trying to tell us the stand and the soprano will tip over without the weight of a tenor on it? (I find that a bit hard to believe, but it could be) Or are you trying to tell us that when you pick up the tenor it has a tendency to pick up the stand with it?

Personally I rarely use pegs on sax stands; I prefer my "pegs" stand which has a heavy steel base and threaded holes for multiple pegs, so I can put flute, soprano, piccolo, or combinations thereof on that one stand. I never use multiple sax stands (like alto-tenor combo). I prefer multiple stands so I can arrange them according to the (often skimpy or oddly shaped) space available. I have also had near misses with picking up a sax and the stand coming with it - if a tall instrument on a peg was attached the whole thing could get out of balance fast - and you're usually in a hurry.

(Just for information, I have an el cheapo tripod alto stand, an elcheapo tripod for tenor, a Hercules tenor (which sometimes I use for alto), a tripod for bari (cut down and modified from a Belmonte type, to fit my low Bb accurately which no stand currently available can do without mods), a Hercules for bassax (extended and modded from a Hercules bari), and the aforementioned "pegs" stand. I've also tapped out the peg threads on all the stands that do accept pegs, so the standard 3/8 NC thread pegs will fit.) All of the above work well for me, if they didn't they would get modified till they did.

 

[turf3]

( I see you wanted a triple with curved soprano)

I think that Hercules does make one which will fit alto, tenor, soprano, + flute and clarinet (if needed)

I don't like that soprano peg, it puts the thing up way too high. Just asking for trouble. I'd either cut it down or throw it away and use a normal one.

 

[LostConn]

I never use multiple sax stands (like alto-tenor combo). I prefer multiple stands so I can arrange them according to the (often skimpy or oddly shaped) space available.

Yes. I used to have a dual alto-tenor stand with pegs (in fact, I still have it somewhere; I just never use it anymore), but have found that individual stands for each instrument provide better flexibility and security. I have a regular Hercules stand for my tenor; a Hercules "Grab-It" stand for my alto (better for a smaller bell); an Oleg collapsible "Bulldog" stand for my alto when extreme portability is desired; a K&M stand for my curved soprano; and a K&M clarinet stand. I never have to bring more than I need, and I can squeeze horns onto small floor spaces.

 

[mmichel]

I don't like that soprano peg, it puts the thing up way too high. Just asking for trouble. I'd either cut it down or throw it away and use a normal one.

I have one, and it's height-adjustable. You can position it just about as low as the clarinet/flute pegs if you want to.

 

[Repentatonic]

I agree with mmichel,the soprano stand must be set too high, I have mine set about two inches from the bottom and have never had an issue using Hercules for tenor and straight soprano.

 

[MitchSugginah]

I agree with mmichel,the soprano stand must be set too high, I have mine set about two inches from the bottom and have never had an issue using Hercules for tenor and straight soprano.

The stand came with a soprano peg.There is no adjustment possible.
Also,if it sounds like an unjustified rant it is b/c the instability has damaged my instrument.
This is unacceptable.

 

[Hassles]

A possible solution - use a counter-weight (of some sort) on the opposing side.