[plekste]

Hello, I am looking to buy my first tenor saxophone and I have found one used. The thing is the seller doesn't know much about it but I have some photos, so I was hoping someone could help with recognizing the model. It is a couple of hour drive and I would still need to get it checked by professional, so just want to understand if it is worth the hussle, because there is not much else available at the moment here...

 

[jgreiner]

Don't know, but gotta say that's the FIRST time I've seen someone cram a neck into the top of a "shove it" swab. Obviously, the seller doesn't know.......anything about saxophones.

 

[Guest]

Love the "neck extender". Must be a saxophone for tall people :yikes!:..................don't bother with this one. If the seller knows nothing, maybe it was stolen. Just a guess.

 

[raindog]

Is that an alto body with some sort of rubber adapter and a tenor neck? That's a first. Also the neck looks like it might have some serious pulldown damage.

 

[Reet McVouty]

Is that an alto body with some sort of rubber adapter and a tenor neck? That's a first. Also the neck looks like it might have some serious pulldown damage.

No, it's a tenor with a pad saver swab shoved down inside and the neck shoved into it. If you can get it for $50.00 it might be worth it. If your tech tells you it's no good you could always make a lamp out of it.

 

[lostcircuits]

No, it's a tenor with a pad saver swab shoved down inside and the neck shoved into it. If you can get it for $50.00 it might be worth it. If your tech tells you it's no good you could always make a lamp out of it.

+1 It looks identical to the Kohlert 0501 I picked up at a garage sale, even the bell engraving only it is a different logo that was put in. Those are decent horns and from the pictures it looks like it is in good shape. Many of those were engraved with the house brand logo of local music stores and were retailing for ~ US$1200.- a few years ago. So, if you can pick it up for a few hundred, you get a decent instrument.

 

[motteatoj]

Don’t bother.
Check Jay Metcalf’s BetterSax YouTube Channel for very good starter tenor and alto recommendations

 

[milandro]

It’s a Chinese made saxophone ( I don’t think this is a Kohlert and it is certainly not an European made saxophone) , indeed, as said , it has a endplug or a pad saver inside and the fact that the neck was put that way shows the seller knows nothing about saxophones.

An acquintance of mine bought something like that some time ag

 

[plekste]

Thanks for the input, everybody really appreciate it!
So I am guessing the vise thing is to let this offer slide.
Should I close the thread or it can only be done by a moderator here?

 

[milandro]

threads don’t get closed unless there is some special reason to do so, members cannot close anything only staff can, good luck!

 

[JayeLID]

Thanks for the input, everybody really appreciate it!
So I am guessing the vise thing is to let this offer slide.
Should I close the thread or it can only be done by a moderator here?

Or you could tell us where you are located and what your budget is, then perhaps folks here can make some suggestions as to what to look for.

As already noted, probably a chinese knockoff of some sort. I understand you would prefer to buy one where you can see it in person first....this can be difficult for folks who do not live near major municipalities. If you are patient with that plan, then stick to it and try to find something within driving distance.

If you want something sooner, buying online is an option but as a beginner you would want to make sure seller has a return policy and guarantees the horn is in playing condition.

 

[lostcircuits]

It's a Chinese made saxophone ( I don't think this is a Kohlert and it is certainly not an European made saxophone) , indeed, as said , it has a endplug or a pad saver inside and the fact that the neck was put that way shows the seller knows nothing about saxophones.

An acquintance of mine bought something like that some time ag

The Kohlert I have is a Chinese made horn.

 

[milandro]

well, then it must be a saxophone using a non authorised name ( I have seen chinese saxophones called Martin) because nobody has made a claim to that name. The Kohlert company no longer exists.

They didn't even had to buy the right to use the name.

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?357264-Kohlert-Saxophones

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?346538-Kohlert-0709

 

[lostcircuits]

As far as I know the rights to use the Kohlert name were acquired by a Chinese manufacturer and the 0502 is actually relatively common in the used market place.
As I said before, this horn looks the same as the one posted by the OP and the one I have was the "house brand" model of a very reputable music store/music school in town here. Not a bad horn at all.

 

[plekste]

Or you could tell us where you are located and what your budget is, then perhaps folks here can make some suggestions as to what to look for.

As already noted, probably a chinese knockoff of some sort. I understand you would prefer to buy one where you can see it in person first....this can be difficult for folks who do not live near major municipalities. If you are patient with that plan, then stick to it and try to find something within driving distance.

If you want something sooner, buying online is an option but as a beginner you would want to make sure seller has a return policy and guarantees the horn is in playing condition.

At the moment I am stuck in Iceland most probably for three months or even more and I have a lot of free time. Ordering online is not an option, because the custom costs are huge here. I am looking for my first ever saxophone, I know that I should start with alto but the sound of tenor saxophone is more pleasant to my ears and also that is the only one that I can find in used condition on this island. It is selling for around 630 USD, but I believe he would give it away much cheaper My other options are brand new Alto YAS280 student for 1260 USD or Tenor YTS280 Student for 1860 USD. I would like to keep my expenses below 800 USD but if nothing reasonable comes up within a month I will most likely go with the Alto YAS280 student , as I understand you cant go wrong with that.

 

[plekste]

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As far as I know the rights to use the Kohlert name were acquired by a Chinese manufacturer and the 0502 is actually relatively common in the used market place.
As I said before, this horn looks the same as the one posted by the OP and the one I have was the "house brand" model of a very reputable music store/music school in town here. Not a bad horn at all.

What do those numbers stand for?

 

[lostcircuits]

It's an arbitrary model number as far as I know. I pulled mind out yesterday and gave it a rigorous workout and it is not quite at the level of my B&S but it is an excellent instrument, very good intonation and free blowing. Very tight keywork. Mine has a few dents, it was a college student with a well off mom who owned and not appreciated it too much and I literally got it at a moving sale for the cost of the gas I spent driving there and helping to clear out the house after it was sold. But it is not your typical low quality Chinese "Mendini or what not horn, I believe it is the same as the Antigua Winds Power Bell Tenor:

https://www.antiguawinds.com/product/power-bell-tenor-ts4248/#group-1

 

[clodius]

Oh, SAX model. Never mind.