Hi , what's a German aug 6th chord?? Never heard that before. Thankshgiles said:It's mostly diatonic stuff (all belonging to the same scale). The only chord you need to really worry about is V7/vi. If you can play the third of this chord in bar six, then you will sound like you know what you're doing.
Oh, almost forgot, there is a German Augmented sixth chord that starts the final cadence (four bars before the end). Just play something bluesy here and you're okay.
a +13 in jazz parlance?hgiles said:If we're in E minor for the last cadence; the last four bars go like this:
C7 | (F#-7b5) B7b9 | Em | turnaround to Am |
C7 is the German augmented sixth chord; spelled correctly is C-E-G-A#; C-A# is the augmented sixth interval.
^^ this might explain it better than I can. They're text explanation is a bit odd, but if you look at (listen to) the voice leading examples, it's pretty clear.
I construct a German +6 this way: tonic (E), major third below the tonic (C), minor third above the tonic (G), augmented sixth degree above the bass (A#).
Well dang me. Learn something new every day.hgiles said:German augment 6th spelled correctly is C-E-G-A#
Me too. But then I guess you can call it whatever you want. Let's see, an augmented 6th or a minor 7th? Which is it? To be fair, perhaps there is some reason to "augment the 6th," rather than "flat the 7th." I haven't thought it through at all, obviously.kavala said:Well dang me. Learn something new every day.
And here I always thought C-E-G-Bb(aka A#), was a C7.
Now I'm really confused.
Anyone that quotes Common Practice Period theory should be automatically banned from the forum. "Moderator, oh Moderator..."hgiles said:German Augmented sixth chord
I was being a smart [email protected]@@.JL said:Me too. But then I guess you can call it whatever you want. Let's see, an augmented 6th or a minor 7th? Which is it? To be fair, perhaps there is some reason to "augment the 6th," rather than "flat the 7th." I haven't thought it through at all, obviously.
In C7 the E wants to resolve up by half-step, the Bb wants to resolve down by half-step.Carl H. said:Find out what they are, instead of just what they are like...
It is all about voice leading. On their own a german 6 and a Dom7 are the same, it is function which differentiates them.
and the C moves to Bhgiles said:In C+6, the A# tends to want to move up a half step. Depending on what you're hearing and what you're playing would determine whether it's one or the other.
That's resolving to Emin.Carl H. said:and the C moves to B
Just sit at a piano. Play a V7 and instead of resolving it the standard way, resolve the 7th up a 1/2 step and the root down a 1/2 step, leaving the 3rd and 5th as is. Opens up new possibilities if you had never run across it before.
Yeah, he probably ran away screaming and pulling his hair out! I hope he tunes back in. Actually the very first response by saxmanglen answered jcgreen's specific question: How to read chord symbols. Pete's chart that the link leads to is very clear and precise. Hey jc, if you're still here, check out that link, then get back to us.Master.America said:Poor jcgreen729... see what you guys are doing to him? He doesn't know the first thing about reading chord symbols. You say "dominant" or list notes like C-E-G and he doesn't get it.
No offense, but a whole of us have forgotten a lot of our 2nd year theory stuff, because we've been busy working on other things, such as playing on changes.......which leads to a different view of voice leading, with different terminology......don't get me wrong, I enjoy theory, (I really enjoyed it back in school), but if I see a C7 chord in Em, I think bVI chord, and all the ways I can resolve it, and don't think of it as an Augmented 6th chord.......darylCarl H. said:This is 2nd year theory stuff folks. I stink at playing changes but I am very familiar with augmented 6 chords. Very neat stuff to smoothly go in a new harmonic direction.
You should look into them if you aren't familiar with them. Find out what they are, instead of just what they are like, after all a red FIAT is like a Ferrari isn't it? Both red Italian cars designed to get you from point A to B.
(It is all about voice leading. On their own a german 6 and a Dom7 are the same, it is function which differentiates them.)