[TraneWorld]

Can any expert help me to identify this tenor?

Thanks and best,

 

[datsaxman]

From that one fuzzy picture??

 

[JayeLID]

More pics, in focus, please.

Pinky table, octave mechanism, any engraving, etc....

(if you can provide it).

 

[TraneWorld]

That’s the only picture I have from the internet. I was trying to focus on that guard that has a crown shape, i thought someone could help.

 

[bruce bailey]

The key guards on the bell look like some European type of horn.

 

[TraneWorld]

I found it.

It is a Tenor Selmer Cigar Cutter Silver plated.

BTW, that is Scott Page Sax.

Thanks everyone!

 

[Bkenes]

Your 100% sure from that one picture?

 

[milandro]

well despite the low B Bb guard being different the F# guard is really that one

 

[pontius]

I think it's just missing part of the key guard that connects to the body tube.

 

[milandro]

it’s possible but , going the visible F# guard it is a sure identification

 

[Bkenes]

I've seen similar (almost identical) side F# key guards on other horns. I'm not totally convinced this is a Cigar Cutter.
There are no signs of the post that is supposed to hold up the other part of the V shaped end of the key guard.
I can't see any scrollwork on the body to bow attachments, due to the pictures blurryness...

I'm not saying it isn't a selmer. I'm just saying I'm not totally convinced from just that one picture.

 

[TraneWorld]

well despite the low B Bb guard being different the F# guard is really that one

That is a Martin because of the "V" shape guard. The one I posted does not have the "V".

 

[TraneWorld]

Ok, I was able to find a picture (it is really hard to find a good one).

What sax is that?, I think that's a Selmer logo.

 

[Bkenes]

That is a Martin because of the "V" shape guard. The one I posted does not have the "V".

No. The one on this picture from Getasax is a Selmer. Martin wasn't the only one with a V shaped guard.

 

[LiAm84]

Ok, I was able to find a picture (it is really hard to find a good one).

What sax is that?, I think that's a Selmer logo.

That looks to be a Selmer New Large Bore. It doesn't have the reinforced neck receiver found on later Selmer Super saxes (Cigar Cutter etc...).

 

[Bkenes]

I found this picture.
It is clearly an early Selmer. It can be a Selmer modele 26, largebore or an early SSS. Hard to tell for sure based on these pictures.
It's not a Cigar Cutter though, due to the fact it's lacking the V shaped Bb B key guard. The earlier Selmers did have the straight keyguard though.

It has Noyek/Maestro/Hollywood resonators (different producers with different names).
There is a "klangbogen" by Reedgeek (which doesnt make any difference).

A couple of springs are replaced with rubber bands Seems to be quite a few band aids on this sax actually...:bluewink:

A Berg piece.

 

[Tryptykon]

I have one these tenors in lacquer finish .. even has the extended Bb tab and Noyeks (already came with those installed) .
Great sounding tenors .. bell keys are a little bit sharp but manageable, for the most part .

 

[TraneWorld]

I found this picture.
It is clearly an early Selmer. It can be a Selmer modele 26, largebore or an early SSS. Hard to tell for sure based on these pictures.
It's not a Cigar Cutter though, due to the fact it's lacking the V shaped Bb B key guard. The earlier Selmers did have the straight keyguard though.

It has Noyek/Maestro/Hollywood resonators (different producers with different names).
There is a "klangbogen" by Reedgeek (which doesnt make any difference).

A couple of springs are replaced with rubber bands Seems to be quite a few band aids on this sax actually...:bluewink:

A Berg piece.

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I am confused. Are you sure all Cigar Cutters have that V shaped guard?

Here is a picture of a Cigar Cutter for sale in Reverb. No V Guard.

 

[LiAm84]

I am confused. Are you sure all Cigar Cutters have that V shaped guard?

Here is a picture of a Cigar Cutter for sale in Reverb. No V Guard.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254522513258

The reverb sax you posted (also see ebay link) is also a New Large Bore (the earliest iteration of the Selmer Super series) not a Cigar Cutter. The New Large Bore didnt have the V shaped key guard. The subsequent models (Cigar Cutter/Radio Improved) did have the key guard.

 

[TraneWorld]

Ok, I guess the mystery is solved.

I contacted Scott himself and he provided me with some pictures of his horn.

Indeed, base on the serial number of the horn IT IS a Cigar Cutter.

The serial number based on Conn-Selmer site states that is a horn made in 1930:

https://www.conn-selmer.com/en-us/r.../henri-selmer-paris-instrument-serial-numbers

Here are the pictures of his actual horn: