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I will be having a tooth extracted soon. It's a lower eyetooth. I'm wondering what to expect. How will my embouchure change if at all? The dentist will be putting in a bone graft. He says eventually I can get a new tooth implanted if I want. Will I have to learn to play differently? thanks.
 

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Nah, you'll be fine. Just follow their recommendations as to when you can play again. The bone graft makes it different from the tooth-yanking I've had done. Ask em if they can sew it up even if it's not strictly necessary, because that gets you back to playing in a day or two rather than a week or two, depending on the doc's recommendation.
 

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I had a cracked moler extracted a few years ago.
Dentist made an absolute mess of it.
Filed away a large section of my jawbone to get the root.
I was advised that a bone graft wasn’t likely to be successful so am without this tooth.
Apart from recovery time, it made no difference to how I play.
Except maybe now I have a little less bite in my sound.
 

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Was root canal work not an option ?
I'm having root canal work done at the moment.
Although with stage 4 restrictions here, I've only had initial treatment and a temporary filling put in until after lockdown.
Likely cost will be in excess of three grand (including crown).
I can fully understand why many would go the extraction.
 

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Was root canal work not an option?
Not an option because this same tooth had root canal years ago and another repair that the periodontist calls "major". It's too far gone so has to come out. It's also endangering an adjacent tooth.
 

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Evil tooth has to go.
Bone grafts are generally more successful on the lower jar because of amount of bone and density.
Pretty sure you can have an implant.
My wife had teeth pulled and they did graft and implant in one day.
 

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Thanks for all the information and help guys. I feel a lot better. Yes, this is in the lower jaw so that’s good. If we do an implant, they say it’s gonna be a nine month process. I’m probably going to need two bone grafts since the bone loss is pretty severe. If I don’t get an implant the process will be much quicker.
 

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I had a rear molar removed, and did everything possible to avoid "dry socket" and protect the area. (As I understand it, "dry socket" is what happens when the membrane of coagulated blood that covers the socket and turns into gum material (whatever it's called), suddenly gets broken by means of chewing hard foods or blowing forcefully or exerting oneself, and leaves the nerves of the inner socket open and exposed, as well, producing sensations of severe pain that cannot be easily repaired.)

After my rear-molar extraction, I had followed all the instructions to the T, but the dentist had said nothing about playing an instrument, so I made the "mistake" of practicing, albeit probably several days after the extraction. I cannot remember.

Still, the slight burning sensation that I felt whenever exerting myself even slightly, went on for six to eight weeks before I could play comfortably again. I don't know if it was exacerbated by doing a few things up until that point, that I was not supposed to do, such as pushing one wheel-barrel uphill on one occasion. Let's assme that I did not go over the limit, for the sake of argument.

In general, until that time, I was scared to practice, because any slight burning discomfort made me think I was going to make it worse, over several weeks, but dentists tell me that "slight burning" is not a symptom of "dry socket," but rather, "severe pain" would have been a more accurate symptom, so, I guess I did not have "dry socket."

The dentist had told me that I should be able to do anything in about one week or less. Had I asked for clarification, maybe the dentist would have said that, in spite of the discomfort, it was permissable to practice. I think that was the conclusion implied. I guess what he means is that it will not produce any damage per se, but the burning sensation, itself, can linger for six weeks or more.

Conclusion: don't confuse the slight burning sensation with actual socket damage, but then don't even try it for an entire week or more, just to be safe--especially if it's a molar, bigger than the front teeth, for example.

Some people tell me that the gum can be slightly sutured, just after the extraction, to protect it even further and expedite the healing. I would definitely request that at all costs.

I would be interested to know your own experiences, however, just to confirm my theories above.

For the sake of comparison, please answer, those of you who had:

1. only one tooth removed at the time,
2. only a lower-jaw tooth removed (which are more delicate),
3. only a big molar removed (vs. a smaller front tooth, for example).

Questions:

A. Please tell us exactly how many days or weeks had to pass, before you could play the saxophone again "comfortably" without any sign of harm (my example said "six weeks," but was based only on slight discomfort)

B. If any of you happened to damage the socket or fleshly membrane by playing the saxophone too soon after the tooth was removed, and did that damage specifically because of playing the instrument, how many days had transpired up to that point, since the extraction?
 

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I had two wisdom teeth taken out (upper) a few years after I took up the Soprano. I had a problem getting back on the little horn for a while. I ended up buying a tenor, which worked out fine. Eventually I was back on soprano, but with a S80 C* instead of the Metal Link 8*. And then worked my way back.
 

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Thanks for the feedback.

But how long would you say that you had to lay off before you could practice any instrument at all without slight pain or complications?
 

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Too bad we are in a global pandemic, and citizens of the USA are banned from traveling to 90% of the globe thanks to the gangsters who are driving the bus into the abyss.

You absolutely should if possible go the Latin America and have the whole extration and implant done for a small fraction of the price you will pay the criminally overpriced dentists in the USA. Medical and dental services are a bunch just massive blood sucking parasite rip offs in the USA.

I'm currently getting an implant down here in Costa Rica for $1400 for the whole job, as opposed to over $5000 in NY.
 

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Wow. Would you mind telling us the name of the dentist and clinic in Costa Rica? Address?
 

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Thanks for the feedback.
how long would you say that you had to lay off before you could practice any instrument at all without slight pain or complications?
i respected "dry socket" protocol for a couple of weeks. i don't remember experiencing so much pain (maybe a dull sense of it) as a lack of basic fortitude; wisdom teeth lying closer towards the hinge of the jaw. i sort of tested the horn periodically, though obviously loosing muscle "chops" the whole time. frankly, i moved straight back to flute, while putting more time into keyboards. it was probably a year later when a friend of mine, who had played clarinet in school, stumbled upon a local repair shop and purchased a nicely set up post-buyout 'Crat, or something like that. he let me play that alto, and it was like riding a bicycle. i bought a tenor shortly after that (and discovered this site after a phone conversation with someone who had been..banned?...but had a good feel for vintage horns, and recommended to me a couple of reputable shops to find the TH&C i was hunting for.) and i was off and running. i probably could have gotten back on the soprano a lot sooner if i had simply moved to the kinder mouthpiece immediately. live and learn.
 

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Nice story!
 

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I recently had three wisdom teeth extracted. At 59 I'm substantially older than most who have this done and I was concerned. It hurt for weeks, but I was back playing within a few days, and gigging the weekend after with no problems. There was also no noticeable change in my tone or tuning and I didn't have make any embouchure changes....
 

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Thanks, Fader. So, then, you testify to the fact that the extraction WILL hurt for weeks, even though there is no particular DAMAGE done by continuing to play--provided that one waits at least a few days before even attempting to play--probably at least one week, judging from what I've heard from dentists lately. Wisdom teeth are supposed to be among the most complicated ones, especially when on the lower jaw.

I finally had another primary molar removed today, No.30, so I'm going as gently as possible not to do anything at all to disturb the scab that now covers the socket.

It seems that this tooth, big as it was, has left a hole even bigger than the one left behind when my wisdom tooth was removed, two years ago, so that might imply that it will take a little longer to heal. The wisdom tooth was at the back of my mouth, so there was not much tongue or food-particle movement in that area, and, being at the back, close to the narrow "hinge" of my jaw, the wound remained covered, most of the day, every day, whenever my mouth was closed, so it would seem that the complications were kept to a minimum--provided that I chewed on the other side of the mouth and took great precautions not to let food wander over to the side of the wound.

Now, however, No.30 is big and wide, and closer to the front of my mouth, and stays uncovered, so I'm a bit more concerned that this may be more of a challenge.

After hours of searching online for post-operative instructions from different dentists (none of them mention anything about playing musical instruments), I stumbled across one website that seems to be particularly thorough in its explanation on everything related to the process of toot extraction, from start to finish. I highly recommend this page (and all links accessed at the top of the page) to anyone who is about to have a tooth removed, or has just had one removed:

https://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_extractions/a-tooth-extraction-healing-times.htm
 

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Thanks, Fader. So, then, you testify to the fact that the extraction WILL hurt for weeks, even though there is no particular DAMAGE done by continuing to play--provided that one waits at least a few days before even attempting to play--probably at least one week, …
(I'm not Fader) The extraction I had a few weeks ago was very painful afterwards. Eating any kind of food was excruciating. I only chewed on one side of the mouth and only ate very soft food (like yogurt, applesauce, eggs, etc). My periodontist said no sax or clarinet playing for at least two weeks and I followed his advice. Someone here said playing flute was okay but even the flute was problematic. It's been about three weeks now and I can finally play the horn and eat. Phew! Don't play until your doc says it's okay.
 
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