Not enough volume inside the tenor mouthpiece.
Have you ever tried a tenor mouthpiece on bari?
During my continued mouthpiece test, I notice that tenor mouthpieces fit my bari, and gave it a shot. It wasn't that bad, but there were some weird spots.
Why wouldn't this work?
Why wouldn't this work?
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The whole sax would be sharp. When you try to pull the mouthpiece out, it may fall off the neck. If it does not, the palm keys would be flat and/or the low notes sharp when the mid-range is in tune. You may be able to lip them in tune, but it would be a lot more difficult than just playing a bari mouthpiece.
I've stuck a bari mouthpiece on a tenor before. That was very easily two things:
1. The loudest I've ever played a tenor sax.
2. The most free-blowing tenor sax I've ever played.
The first note I hit actaully scared me a bit...
1. The loudest I've ever played a tenor sax.
2. The most free-blowing tenor sax I've ever played.
The first note I hit actaully scared me a bit...
I've also played a bari mouthpiece on a tenor. It was so loud it shocked me at first. Shame every note was a semitone out!
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Vaughan
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Vaughan
I tried it on tenor during a field show practiced, and I pissed off quite a few people because of the loud noise. but other than that, I had no problems what so ever!
Thanks retread and mojo..and I didnt try it out against a tuner, so I have no idea of intonation
No. But I've tried a bari mpc.on bass.Works pretty darned good.
I have tried a bari piece on a tenor and it does not work very well. You can get a decent sound, but there are major intonation issues and it is very hard to control.
I have done the reverse as well and have found that it is much harder to produce a sound. It would be akin to what French horn players go through. They play on a mouthpiece that is much smaller then a trumpet and the horn is twice the size of the trumpet (I think. A double horn has 9 feet of tubing?)
I have done the reverse as well and have found that it is much harder to produce a sound. It would be akin to what French horn players go through. They play on a mouthpiece that is much smaller then a trumpet and the horn is twice the size of the trumpet (I think. A double horn has 9 feet of tubing?)
I tried an alto mpc on a bari, it didn't work well 
Try a soprano piece on your contrabass. Or vice versa.
tenor mouthpiece on bass!
While in search of a mouthpiece that suits me on bass, I decided to try my tenor mouthpiece on bass....
Now, as you might suspect, a tenor mouthpiece would be sharp on bari, and it would be _really_ sharp on bass. So, I had my local repair guy construct a BASS SAX BIT!
Just as a sousaphone bit, the bass sax bit extends the length of the neck. Now, I can play my tenor piece on bass!
Why bother? Well, I *really* like my tenor piece --- and, being in search of a bass mouthpiece option, a bit was a cheap alternative to another mouthpiece.
How did it play? Great! Of course, there are a few caveats...
My tenor piece is a Lakey Aluminum #9. Wide open, allowing more reed flapping than most tenor pieces. Even so, the facing was still much shorter than a bass piece, so I had to use a 1.5 Rico tenor reed to get reasonable response on the low end.
Upper range was incredible. No surprise there.
Lower range, even with the soft reed, was hard to control and speak clearly.
Intonation required some player adjustment --- but it wasn't so bad that it couldn't be handled. Tune for G, relax the jaw below that, lip up for the higher register.
Best part, though, was the volume and projection I could achieve. If only it had better low register response (so I could just lay on, say, a low C), I would probably keep this setup and work with it.
A few factors to consider.... I am very comfortable with the Lakey piece, so it was not hard to adjust to using it on the bass. Also, the projection and volume (and clarity) are likely due to the design of the mouthpiece, moreso than the fact that it was a tenor mouthpiece. (This, of course, makes me wish Nick and the good folks at CL would make a bass aluminum piece, or at least make available the bari piece they once had in prototype stage.)
[If there's anyone out there that would like to entertain a custom mouthpiece job to make a "Lakey-stencil" metal bass mouthpiece, let me know.... I'm still in search, as many of us are, for the right piece.]
Hmmm..... just now the wheels in my head have started to turn..... What if some tubing was added to the end of the Lakey piece (to eliminate the need for the bit and make it fit on the bass neck) and the facing was lengthened to about 30mm (to improve the low end response)??? Might still have some intonation problems due to the size of the chamber, but maybe that could somehow be compensated in the extended neck of the mouthpiece..... Too bad I don't have a spare $200 to chance on an experiment......
-DH
While in search of a mouthpiece that suits me on bass, I decided to try my tenor mouthpiece on bass....
Now, as you might suspect, a tenor mouthpiece would be sharp on bari, and it would be _really_ sharp on bass. So, I had my local repair guy construct a BASS SAX BIT!
Just as a sousaphone bit, the bass sax bit extends the length of the neck. Now, I can play my tenor piece on bass!
Why bother? Well, I *really* like my tenor piece --- and, being in search of a bass mouthpiece option, a bit was a cheap alternative to another mouthpiece.
How did it play? Great! Of course, there are a few caveats...
My tenor piece is a Lakey Aluminum #9. Wide open, allowing more reed flapping than most tenor pieces. Even so, the facing was still much shorter than a bass piece, so I had to use a 1.5 Rico tenor reed to get reasonable response on the low end.
Upper range was incredible. No surprise there.
Lower range, even with the soft reed, was hard to control and speak clearly.
Intonation required some player adjustment --- but it wasn't so bad that it couldn't be handled. Tune for G, relax the jaw below that, lip up for the higher register.
Best part, though, was the volume and projection I could achieve. If only it had better low register response (so I could just lay on, say, a low C), I would probably keep this setup and work with it.
A few factors to consider.... I am very comfortable with the Lakey piece, so it was not hard to adjust to using it on the bass. Also, the projection and volume (and clarity) are likely due to the design of the mouthpiece, moreso than the fact that it was a tenor mouthpiece. (This, of course, makes me wish Nick and the good folks at CL would make a bass aluminum piece, or at least make available the bari piece they once had in prototype stage.)
[If there's anyone out there that would like to entertain a custom mouthpiece job to make a "Lakey-stencil" metal bass mouthpiece, let me know.... I'm still in search, as many of us are, for the right piece.]
Hmmm..... just now the wheels in my head have started to turn..... What if some tubing was added to the end of the Lakey piece (to eliminate the need for the bit and make it fit on the bass neck) and the facing was lengthened to about 30mm (to improve the low end response)??? Might still have some intonation problems due to the size of the chamber, but maybe that could somehow be compensated in the extended neck of the mouthpiece..... Too bad I don't have a spare $200 to chance on an experiment......
-DH
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