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I love the ballet and the symphony because of the beauty of it but, you’re correct if you mean it’s only for those who can afford the luxury. I don’t go for status because who the hell besides me and my wife know I go? We don’t have the means to have a bronze plaque on the wall thanking us for our “generous support.”
 

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I would submit that without generous endowments from capitalist foundations and other wealthy Americans, ballet and classical music wouldn’t exist anymore.
Or fire departments and police and clean streets etc….
 

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I see a lot of opining on the human condition when all I posted about was a tool. If you all want to get into a discussion about why humans behave the way that we do perhaps dig deeply into evolutionary psychology, cognitive biases, cognitive dissonance, and operant conditioning. That should keep you busy for awhile and you will be able to form more valid opinions. These are also the very reasons that I believe that something else will have to replace **** Sapiens if intelligent life or just intelligence will continue to progress at the current rate. Maybe **** Nouveau or **** Evolutis? (found those two in a Google search that took all of 10 or 15 seconds, it took Google .6 seconds to come back with an answer) That's another good point that I think we are like John Henry vs. the steam drill. You might beat it for awhile but it doesn't get tired, need to sleep, get cold or hot, need to find a mate, etc., etc., etc. Who knows maybe we'll make great pets.
 

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If we were a kind species keen on survival and advancing civilization the machines would do all the hard labor and busywork while the people innovate, create, ponder life’s great questions and invent. Instead greed and power always win. Machines should work while people art.
That's what Buckminster Fuller predicted in the 60s.
 

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AI? We ain't sen nothing yet:
A very interesting video. I am listening to the second book in Chuck Wendig's Wanderers series. In it an AI named Black Swan believes that humans are about to push climate change beyond the point of no return so it manipulates an employee at a research facility to release a biological weapon that kills off most of human kind. The AI protects a select group of humans to be its flock to rebuild civilization. Though in this second book it has become clear that Black Swan cannot be trusted.
Wanderers Series
Chuck Wendig
 

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You can compare such things to AI generated music playlists based on user submitted musical preferences. Or say, music videos 'suggested' based on what you've already watched. They're not very good. You just end up getting music that most everybody else listens to. Usually limited to specific genre of music or say a supposed time era. Try listening to 90's rock on one and see how nearly every service recommends the exact same stuff. It's the hi-tech version of those "Best of the 70's" or "Oldies" they used to sell on TV. AI makes for a terrible DJ, though I suppose with Clear Channel owning most stations these days, the bar is not set very high.

When it gets down to it, it's just about money. They're not interested in truly catering to your individual tastes. These companies are interested in addictive behavior models and maximizing ad revenue. I would liken it to the approach public education takes in which learning methods are used. One size fits all. Maximum return on investment. Creativity and true problem solving? An afterthought/by product.

I was coding chat bots for fun in the 90's and most recently about 12 years ago. From what I have seen they have not advanced significantly. More processing power, larger databases, some more convoluted code to fake passing a turing test. But the same old stuff on the inside. But wait, now they can search Google and parse results? Literally the same stuff that was possible 15 years ago and what I and some nerds did for entertainment for $0 of funding. All this coverage has more to do with capital investments than anything, which is all it will amount to in the end. Much like the much-lauded return of VR a few years ago and the metaverse in the last two years, it's the latest spam to get you to throw your money into a blackhole. Parlor tricks. But you don't have to take my word. Wait two or three years and see what comes of it all.
 
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