[Hoosier Ken]

Kena Artificial Intelligence has an app that connects you to their AI system. It does have different levels for sax from absolute beginner to masterclass but these are taken from Youtube videos. It biggest benefit that I can find so far is its ability to analyze your playing from a recording and pointing out what you did right and your mistakes. I remember that typing tutor program though that really helped me learn to type and I wonder if this app could be like that.

 

[KasperKat]

Is the narretors voice in mono?

 

[Hoosier Ken]

Is the narretors voice in mono?

He said that he was an engineer at an AI company. He might be computer generated.

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

The more I read about AI the more I realize the world will have a lot of people without jobs. Kinda a scary thought

 

[Paowz]

its ability to analyze your playing from a recording and pointing out what you did right and your mistakes.

I'm quite curious whether it would tend to correct players towards a homogeneous playing at all, making players roughly play the same in the end.. This tool greatly depends on its learning feeds, there is always a bias..

 

[Aquarian]

I'm quite curious whether it would tend to correct players towards a homogeneous playing at all, making players roughly play the same in the end.. This tool greatly depends on its learning feeds, there is always a bias..

I agree.

I could say the same of telling everyone to get the Charlie Parker omnibook, and Mingus was typically blunt about what alto sax players of his era all sounded like. And yes, if you build a style by imitating Charlie Parker, you will sound like you’re imitating Charlie Parker.

Ultimately to do anything new requires a rejection of orthodoxy. Computers are extremely rule based systems; this AI will certainly reinforce orthodox methods and approaches. That said, it may be better at giving specific advice that some teachers, or much worse than others. But I don’t think it is possible for it to encourage a creative approach.

 

[swperry1]

The more I read about AI the more I realize the world will have a lot of people without jobs. Kinda a scary thought

If we were a kind species keen on survival and advancing civilization the machines would do all the hard labor and busywork while the people innovate, create, ponder life’s great questions and invent. Instead greed and power always win. Machines should work while people art.

 

[Hoosier Ken]

From what I have seen poking around in the app itbis mostly geared toward piano and guitar. I think that they generate revenue by selling sheet music with the added service of having their computer analyze your playing and providing feedback.

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

If we were a kind species keen on survival and advancing civilization the machines would do all the hard labor and busywork while the people innovate, create, ponder life’s great questions and invent. Instead greed and power always win. Machines should work while people art.

That is whyI believe immigrants are valuable commodity in the workforce. Expecting everybody to suddenly turn into artists is not likely to happen. I think we will find that human beings left to their own devices will find very artistic ways to kill each other when there is no meaningful labor.

 

[swperry1]

That is whyI believe immigrants are valuable commodity in the workforce. Expecting everybody to suddenly turn into artists is not likely to happen. I think we will find that human beings left to their own devices will find very artistic ways to kill each other when there is no meaningful labor.

i disagree. But we’ve never tried that way in the modern world that I’m aware of…every other system has resulted in death for money and power. Imagine…it’s easy if we try.

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

So…it’s just like a human teacher in its biases then?

i disagree. But we’ve never tried that way in the modern world that I’m aware of…every other system has resulted in death for money and power. Let’s try sometime.

I tend to be a pessimist on the subject of human advancement. I see no proof that any change will result in betterment of society at large. Its not only money that causes humans to hurt each other but it has a huge impact on the peoples ability to fend for themselves when they are living in poverty. Its a horrible thing what has become of our so-called civilization. In my 42 years of voting and being involved in local and national politics I just can not see it changing during my lifetime.

 

[AddictedToSax]

If we were a kind species keen on survival and advancing civilization the machines would do all the hard labor and busywork while the people innovate, create, ponder life’s great questions and invent. Instead greed and power always win. Machines should work while people art.

Most people are lazy and want to do as little as necessary to get by. Individuals who think and create are extremely rare. I’m thinking of people like Einstein, Curie, Jobs, Tesla, Musk etc. Maybe I should throw in Mozart, Miles Davis and Coltrane. Without drudge jobs that need to be done 99.9% of us would starve. Me included.

i disagree. But we’ve never tried that way in the modern world that I’m aware of…every other system has resulted in death for money and power. Imagine…it’s easy if we try.

With all due respect, it’s easy to imagine by taking a look at history. Every time Utopia has been tried millions have died of starvation. Literally! Human nature is what it is. Hoping that a “New Man” or “New Mankind” will emerge is wishful thinking.

 

[swperry1]

I tend to be a pessimist on the subject of human advancement. I see no proof that any change will result in betterment of society at large. Its not only money that causes humans to hurt each other but it has a huge impact on the peoples ability to fend for themselves when they are living in poverty. Its a horrible thing what has become of our so-called civilization. In my 42 years of voting and being involved in local and national politics I just can not see it changing during my lifetime.

Yeah. I think globally we’ve peaked under this societal model, but it’ll fizzle quite a while before a major reset happens.

Most people are lazy and want to do as little as necessary to get by. Individuals who think and create are extremely rare. I’m thinking of people like Einstein, Curie, Jobs, Tesla, Musk etc. Without drudge jobs that need to be done 99.9% of us would starve. Me included.

I wonder how many individuals think about creating and don’t because they gave up on their dreams to be productive cogs? Wonder how many people would much rather be working in another field but can’t because they’re tied to their job? Not everyone dreams about being an artist. Everyone needs things and money to buy them with, so jobs will still be a thing. If jobs all paid a reasonable living, everyone could afford to live reasonably…there goes most of the poverty problem. There’s got to be a happy medium between doing as little as possible to get by and busting 40-60 hours 50 weeks a year for 50 years. Especially since we’re not seeing any of the spoils.

 

[AddictedToSax]

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[AddictedToSax]

Yeah. I think globally we’ve peaked under this societal model, but it’ll fizzle quite a while before a major reset happens.

I wonder how many individuals think about creating and don’t because they gave up on their dreams to be productive cogs? Wonder how many people would much rather be working in another field but can’t because they’re tied to their job? Not everyone dreams about being an artist. Everyone needs things and money to buy them with, so jobs will still be a thing. If jobs all paid a reasonable living, everyone could afford to live reasonably…there goes most of the poverty problem. There’s got to be a happy medium between doing as little as possible to get by and busting 40-60 hours 50 weeks a year for 50 years. Especially since we’re not seeing any of the spoils.

No disagreement with you there. I don’t see everyone becoming an artist or a writer or musician because AI has freed us. I wish I had an answer but I don’t.

I wanted to be an Air Force pilot but I had 20/400 vision. I would have loved to have been a golf pro but couldn’t break 80 to save my life. Would have liked to have been a writer. I had the writing skills but not the imagination. I liked playing music but only got so far with it. (I see 10 year old kids on YouTube who play better after a year or two than I could have ever managed).

Most of us find something we can do well and try to be good at it. Sometimes if we’re lucky we find satisfaction in it. Most of us try to find satisfaction somewhere else than our jobs; our kids, our hobbies (like playing sax), our spouse.

Wouldn’t life be amazing if we could find a job we looked forward to each morning and were well compensated for? Some find it. Most don’t. I eventually found something I was good at and didn’t hate. The money was enough but a lot less than I think I was worth. Ain’t that the way it is though!

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

Yeah. I think globally we’ve peaked under this societal model, but it’ll fizzle quite a while before a major reset happens.

I wonder how many individuals think about creating and don’t because they gave up on their dreams to be productive cogs? Wonder how many people would much rather be working in another field but can’t because they’re tied to their job? Not everyone dreams about being an artist. Everyone needs things and money to buy them with, so jobs will still be a thing. If jobs all paid a reasonable living, everyone could afford to live reasonably…there goes most of the poverty problem. There’s got to be a happy medium between doing as little as possible to get by and busting 40-60 hours 50 weeks a year for 50 years. Especially since we’re not seeing any of the spoils.

The real problem in this current society and especially in the USA art is not appreciated in the same way as it has been for centuries in Europe. Capitalism should be working for all us not just the few. Unfortunately, reality sets in and wall street is the winner every single time.

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

No disagreement with you there. I don’t see everyone becoming an artist or a writer or musician because AI has freed us. I wish I had an answer but I don’t.

I wanted to be an Air Force pilot but I had 20/400 vision. I would have loved to be a golf pro but couldn’t break 80 to save my life. Would have liked to be a writer. I had the writing skills but not the imagination. I liked playing music but only got so far with it. (I see 10 year old kids on YouTube who play better after a year or two than I could ever manage).

Most of us find something we can do well and try to be good at it. Sometimes if we’re lucky we find satisfaction in it. Most of us try to find satisfaction somewhere else than our jobs; our kids, our hobbies (like playing sax), our spouse.

Wouldn’t life be amazing if we could find a job we looked forward to each morning and were well compensated for? Some find it. Most don’t. I eventually found something I was good at and didn’t hate. The money was enough but a lot less than I think I was worth. Ain’t that the way it is though!

I lived the dream for 21 years in the US Navy fleet band program. 10 active duty and then 10 in the reserve. I played music and I traveled and I got a paycheck. I was enlisted and did not get paid all that well but then again, I got to play for a living for awhile. After that I really struggled to make ends meet even with a pension so I opened a mid century modern furniture store which is one of my interests. Did that for 8 years. I have never worked for other people except when I was in the military. Now I wax poetically about that time because playing for a living is near impossible in the midwest.

 

[swperry1]

No disagreement with you there. I don’t see everyone becoming an artist or a writer or musician because AI has freed us. I wish I had an answer but I don’t.

I wanted to be an Air Force pilot but I had 20/400 vision. I would have loved to be a golf pro but couldn’t break 80 to save my life. Would have liked to be a writer. I had the writing skills but not the imagination. I liked playing music but only got so far with it. (I see 10 year old kids on YouTube who play better after a year or two than I could ever manage).

Most of us find something we can do well and try to be good at it. Sometimes if we’re lucky we find satisfaction in it. Most of us try to find satisfaction somewhere else than our jobs; our kids, our hobbies (like playing sax), our spouse.

Wouldn’t life be amazing if we could find a job we looked forward to each morning and were well compensated for? Some find it. Most don’t. I eventually found something I was good at and didn’t hate. The money was enough but a lot less than I think I was worth. Ain’t that the way it is though!

Absolutely.

 

[AddictedToSax]

The real problem in this current society and especially in the USA art is not appreciated in the same way as it has been for centuries in Europe. Capitalism should be working for all us not just the few. Unfortunately, reality sets in and wall street is the winner every single time.

I would submit that without generous endowments from capitalist foundations and other wealthy Americans, ballet and classical music wouldn’t exist anymore.

 

[swperry1]

I would submit that without generous endowments from capitalist foundations and other wealthy Americans, ballet and classical music wouldn’t exist anymore.

Yup. That’s why going to the ballet or symphony is a status symbol more than a cultural endeavor for the folks who can afford the scene.