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I have an H. Cleyton Madrid tenor saxophone. I played it in middle school because my mother had it when she was in school, so it’s been in the family for well over 50 years. I just can’t find any information regarding this brand. There was a thread on here that I found, but no replies to it. I mainly want to know how much it’s worth, and upkeep with it. We had taken it to get it professionally cleaned and repaired like 15 years ago, but it has been in storage for the last 7 years. I can’t find anyone local who works on saxophones.
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I cannot yet identify this saxophone (Czech, German ...).
Are there serial numbers on the neck and body of the saxophone?
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I cannot for the life of me find any serial numbers. I’ve looked it up and down about a hundred times. The only other writing says “Brevete” so I don’t know if that means anything.
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This saxophone appears top be a Kohlert Stencil, or at the very least have many of the Kohlert characteristics (while having some differences, mostly aesthetic such as the square palm keys and Eb-C (these last one are a reminder of much later Weltklang but I tend to think that other things are preponderant here) on accounts of several characteristics ( bell to body brace, this type was used in some earlier Kohlert-Amati later on there were different ones, but the so typical feature is the neck brace replicating the “ man in de moon” ( also used by Buescher but different)+ microtuner very typical of Kohlert). Remember that stencils were often a combination of older and newer features .

Also the key guards seem similar to the Kohlert model ’57. In my opinion it is a concoction of Kohlert elements , previously used in many models of different ages.

The original part is the palm Keys.


here see example on alto of the bell to body brace as it was used by Kohlert (identical to OP horn)

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this is the “ Man in the moon” neck brace, slightly different from Buescher, and the contemporary presence of a microtuner on a tenor screams Kohlert (there also examples without microtuner)

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this a Kohlert tenor (different) with the same bell to body brace and neck but different everything else)

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these are the Guards of the Kohlert ‘57

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This is all so neat to learn! I know basically nothing. I only played in band for a few years in school before we moved to a school that didn’t have band and I quit trying to learn. Thank you for the info!!
 
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