[gsmsax1011]

Hey,
I've been in the market for a new pro tenor and I was looking for the big vintage sound. My father(who is also a tenor man) ordered a guardala "new york series" tenor for me. Is that even close to the sound that I would want from a vintage martin, buescher, or conn? And if anyone has any input or experience with the guardalas by all means tell me.

 

[Randall]

g, if it is a NEW one from the Woodwind and Brasswind, it is not very good. These are made by the Amati company.
The old Guardala horns were made by the B&S company and are superb horns.

 

[gsmsax1011]

well i posted this one twice, hoped to delete this one but can't
o well

 

[gsmsax1011]

thanks, g#cluster on martins

thanks randy,
yeah it is a new one
i never really wanted it in the first place, but he thought it would be better.
i'm will be able to send the horn back once it gets her around thursday, and find myself a good vintage horn that i really want. Idk if you have any experience with them, but hows the g# cluster one the old "the martin" tenors? if anyone has played them or plays them now please respond, because i'm quite interested in these horns!

 

[Reedsplinter]

I owned a silver-plated Guardala tenor, @1992, for about 4 years. It was a good horn -- a very good horn, indeed -- but not my thing, in the end. Despite the dealer's sales pitch, it did NOT, in my opinion, have a vintage sound at all: it was a bright horn. Very good for someone, but not for me. I sold it and bought a 1929 Chu Berry, which I still have as my backup horn: I preferred, and prefer, it to the Guardala, in spite of the non-ergonomic keys. Much better voice for my purposes.

 

[Randall]

G, you wil love the Martin. Plus the action is lightning fast!

 

[rispoli]

thanks randy,
yeah it is a new one
i never really wanted it in the first place, but he thought it would be better.
i'm will be able to send the horn back once it gets her around thursday, and find myself a good vintage horn that i really want. Idk if you have any experience with them, but hows the g# cluster one the old "the martin" tenors? if anyone has played them or plays them now please respond, because i'm quite interested in these horns!

The Martin would be a great choice for that "vintage sound" you are after (a 10M too).
But take the Guardala at least out of the box when you get it, you might end up liking it anyways, plus you have 45 days to return it.
I bet it's a rather bright tenor but also the original Guardala (the one I bet your father had in mind) was not particularly vintage sounding as the other poster remarked.
Among the modern tenors I think the only one that gets close to sounding vintage is the P.Mauriat 66R but it became rather pricey nowadays, you can buy a Martin AND a 10M for those 2700$ some sellers are asking....

 

[gsmsax1011]

for the best sound and inntonation and action
which vintage would you guys recommend that has the best feel and would be the easiest to adjust to?

 

[Reedsplinter]

Oh, boy, that's a major thread in itself. Maybe you should look around in old threads: this sort of thing gets discussed constantly here, and of course there's no answer to the question. Find a horn you like. Play as many as you can get your hands on and buy the one you fall in love with.

 

[gsmsax1011]

thanks guys!

 

[sarge]

hmmmm

I have an older guardala tenor in my collection, i think it's a model 500, in triple silver plate. I would say that it does deserve to be referred to as a "more vintage" tone, not as "bright". It's a heavy horn and has a lot of fattness to the tone. Really not too far from a 10M, if it were a silver one. i have even A/B'd my silver 10m and the guardala. not identicle, but both very nice and warm. For a modern horn a Keilwerth sx90r or a german-made Guardala would be my vote for a "more vintage" tone, of course with better ergo's than most vintage horns.

 

[Dave dix]

for the best sound and inntonation and action
which vintage would you guys recommend that has the best feel and would be the easiest to adjust to?

Got to be a buescher aristocrat pre 63 but i prefer the pre 59 era
Dave