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They talk about a lot of things. It's especially interesting after 15:00 when he talks about the state of jazz today
 

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Terrific interview,he asks a few good questions then stays out of the way and lets them talk,with a little trading of fours between Joe and John.Learning the music by ear,the jazz ed industry steering folk into a career that doesn't really exist,real books,transcription,big bands, great interview!
 
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