This is a good one for the search button. It's been covered and then some! (You are not alone in your opinion.)
I have a difficult time reaching the same conclusion. :?jazzsax86 said:I bought a Sugal sop mouthpeice... I can't tell if I like it or not.. It really stinks cause it was very expensive... The sugal mouthpeices are well respected...
Over the last 5 years or so, I've not heard much raving about Sugal mpcs, other than from Gary. The ones I've seen on eBay have gone for maybe half the list price. I've got a wooden Gonz II I'm going to sell pretty soon, and will feel lucky to get $140 for it. It's a pretty good screamer and plays easily in the altissimo, but it lacks nuance and richness. It could just be me, though.jazzsax86 said:The sugal mouthpeices are well respected, so you can most likely sell the sugal for a pretty penny.
They aren't respected and you'll sell at a loss. Better to send the mouthpiece-shaped piece of metal to a refacer and have one of them fix it.jazzsax86 said:I bought a Sugal sop mouthpeice for a Selmer Series III (matte - if it makes a diff). The liebman model (dont remember the name) it is sooo bright. I can't tell if I like it or not.. It really stinks cause it was very expensive, as I'm sure you have found out as well. haha. Anyways, I'm still trying to figure it out, but if there is another mouthpeice that plays better, or you like your sound better, then you should obviously go with that. The sugal mouthpeices are well respected, so you can most likely sell the sugal for a pretty penny.
I'm sure the re-facers here will love you for this one. The Sugals are a piece of crap mouthpiece based on the design of another piece of crap; Lawtons.J.Max said:They aren't respected and you'll sell at a loss. Better to send the mouthpiece-shaped piece of metal to a refacer and have one of them fix it.
They are! I bought a Compostie mouthpiece that I think instead of plastic was ****, and Hard Rubber.captain blowhard said:The Yamaha 4C is an OK mouthpiece, specially considering the price. Not fantastic but neither do they suck. They seem to be made of a 50 / 50 mix of powdered hard rubber and plastic.
Eventually you'll probably want to move to a bigger tip opening and proper HR or metal piece.
I too bought a mpc from Gary that had a big gob of stuff on the inside. I sent it back and he took care of it and apologized for the inconvenience. I still don't care for the mpc, but it was a legit transaction.pandala said:Hi everybody. I'm a newbie of this wonderful forum.
I'm from Italy. A couple of years ago I bought a tenor super gonz from Gary. I spent a fortune for having it....high cost, VAT and customs (
Well, when I played it, sounded so husky and bright... When I saw the chamber I noticed that there was a big rabbet on inner inside wall... I sended the piece back to him and I gave my explanations about how wost sounded the piece.
The result?? The piece never get back to me...LOST!! Gary declared that he never received the piece...
So you could imagine how I feel...
All of them are based on a Lawton design, at least externally. The internals of the Lawtons are better though...Sugal mouthpieces are poorly made, especially for the price you pay for them. I've never seen one of them that didn't have uneven rails. And yes, he's the P.T. Barnum of the saxophone world, but I wouldn't equate him to Guardala. Guardala's mouthpieces are better, and Gary hasn't done anything illegal that I know of...ChuBerry47 said:So the Designs are not gary's? Which mouthpieces? (Model Names)
This is the truth!! Amen, I was affected by the MAS, but no more now.betelsax said:Gotta love good marketing.
There's a large sub-category of GAS called MAS, Mouthpiece Acquisition Syndrome, and the wolves are out there stalking.