[jlima]

I did a search here but didn't come up with much. So, is anyone using or has anyone used these, and what are the results? Thanks for sharing.

 

[milandro]

maybe this thread helps............http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?91592-Francois-Louis-plates-do-they-make-a-difference

 

[jlima]

Of course everyone is free to speak their mind, but this thread is intended for those who HAVE tried the FL plates, not for another endless discussion on whether or not pressure plates affect the sound...

 

[BPSAX]

I have used the pressure plates.
To me it just changes the resistance a tiny bit.
The brass seemed more resistant than the steel which is why I liked it.

 

[marton]

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[jlima]

I have used the pressure plates.
To me it just changes the resistance a tiny bit.
The brass seemed more resistant than the steel which is why I liked it.

So users of these plates DO exist! Thank you for the information.
I've ordered a set of these. Will report back when I receive and try them.

 

[JackLi]

Hey Jlima,
I read this the other day in the Gaurdala II ligature thread and I think it applies here it starts of mentioning the Selmer 402 lig but goes into the FL pressure plates

Hello Guys, I play my tenor with Guardala Studio mouthpiece on and I think the ligature is an important element! I have done several tests on my mouthpiece ..... I think the Rovner ligature is not good, in my 'kill' the sound by reducing vibration. I tried the Selmer ligature (in Italy there is a shop that sells Selmer tenor changed to fit the Guardala), and the situation has clearly improved, the sound became more defined compared to Rovner. I think that the best ligature for the Guardala mouthpieces is the FL, but unfortunately there is no provision for the mouthpiece. I bought a FL ''Pure Brass XL for HR moutpieces for soprano sax'', then you must enter the level expander (the level expander is a small ring that must be inserted between the ligature and plate), and of course buy the ''tenor - kit of pressure plates'' and ''tenor mouthpiece cap''. With 'stained steel plate' the resistance decreases and increases the harmonics, with 'heavy brass plate' (I am the best) significantly increases the resistance but also increase the density of sound and harmonics, the 'rubber coated stainless steel plate' is bad for me, as Rovner 'kill' the sound.

These are the pics of the modified Selmer ligature (the mouthpiece in the pics is my current Studio), I have highlighted in red the modified parts: http://img98.imageshack.us/g/tmpphpry1vyfj.jpg/

These are the pics of the FL (the mpc in the pics is my ex MB-II HM by PMS) http://img181.imageshack.us/g/dsc02796w.jpg/

Obviously what I wrote are my opinions, I hope to be helpful ;-)

 

[jlima]

Hey Jlima,
I read this the other day in the Gaurdala II ligature thread and I think it applies here it starts of mentioning the Selmer 402 lig but goes into the FL pressure plates

Thank you!

 

[JackLi]

Thank you!

No problem, I hope it was informative.

 

[jlima]

No problem, I hope it was informative.

It was. The effect of the rubber coated plate "killing" the sound is more or less to be expected, I think. The unexpected for me is the effect that some plates may have on the resistance. Also, I was expecting comments on the lines of more/less focus, or more/less brilliance. I suppose I have to try the plates myself. I own the Vandoren Optimum lig and I do experience a significant difference in tone quality between the three plates, so I was expecting something along the same lines to happen with the FL plates.

 

[saxjazzjohn]

jack li.. your FL is different from over FL.. how?? ... i just had a look on wwbw .. urs look completely different ... urs is more compact metal one ... ?? whats the difference ?

http://www.wwbw.com/Ultimate-Ligatu...ures-472130-i1442454.wwbw?esid=francois louis

 

[saxjazzjohn]

which one FL to fit on a D.G mk2 SAB or STB ?? thanks

 

[JackLi]

jack li.. your FL is different from over FL.. how?? ... i just had a look on wwbw .. urs look completely different ... urs is more compact metal one ... ?? whats the difference ?

http://www.wwbw.com/Ultimate-Ligatu...ures-472130-i1442454.wwbw?esid=francois louis

which one FL to fit on a D.G mk2 SAB or STB ?? thanks

Hi John,
The little bit I quoted was actually from Salvac85. If I you I'd send him a personal message for advice since I have never owned a Gaurdala.

 

[RandyJ]

I got an FL lig, I think it was about 5 years ago when everyone was saying they were so great. I was given the plate set along with it and over a period of about two months tried them and even did some clips with the different ones while in studio sessions.

What I came away with was the different plates made no difference in the "out front" sound and just didn't think the lig itself was anything to rave about and sold it all.

 

[jlima]

I got an FL lig, I think it was about 5 years ago when everyone was saying they were so great. I was given the plate set along with it and over a period of about two months tried them and even did some clips with the different ones while in studio sessions.

What I came away with was the different plates made no difference in the "out front" sound and just didn't think the lig itself was anything to rave about and sold it all.

Now that I've had them for a reasonable period, I concur with everything you say about the lig and the plates. Not worth the investment.

 

[craigmultireedguy]

I disagree. I've always used the FL Ultimate since I switched to hard rubber, and have LOVED it! Moreso than any other ligature. I bought the pressure plate set because I heard the solid brass plate would darken the sound, and it did, to a surprising degree. I will definitely be using that plate for classical. I didn't care for the rubber coated one. All in all, it's a great ligature, and definitely worth a try. Same with the pressure plates.

 

[fabioevans]

I disagree. I've always used the FL Ultimate since I switched to hard rubber, and have LOVED it! Moreso than any other ligature. I bought the pressure plate set because I heard the solid brass plate would darken the sound, and it did, to a surprising degree. I will definitely be using that plate for classical. I didn't care for the rubber coated one. All in all, it's a great ligature, and definitely worth a try. Same with the pressure plates.

The same to me....I use the brass pressure plate, on the ultimate lig on ottolink metal and i find it great, with more resistance and more sound. (it's fatter than the the silver one, that i use with another ultimate LIG on T.W. Brahma HR)