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Flute & sax embouchure changes over different ranges

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I've played flute for 50 years and feel confident about my abilities.
Sax a long time but didn't have much instruction or serious practice compared to flute.

On flute i change the air stream angle and shape for different registers.
For low notes a wider aperture and higher angle (almost straight across), for high a narrower hole and lower downward angle.

On sax I move my bottom lip/jaw slightly in and out thereby changing the amount of available reed for vibration.
Out for low (more reed) and in for high (less reed).

On both instruments these actions are graded throughout the whole note range.

Does this seem viable?
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I think more reed is needed to get a full low note and less reed needs to vibrate for the higher.
Your example possibly corroborates my position.
How can one change the direction of the airstream on a sax mpc?
I keep my throat open. I've moved my tongue around and up and down, no change in tone. I have the genetically rare tongue that's thick and round not flat and cupped. Maybe that has an effect. I can't play harmonica and select individual notes by curving it into a "U".
I was taught with flute to always keep the throat open.
French articulation is tongue between the teeth, which I use for staccato.
My normal way is on the roof of the mouth which is what i do on sax.
I have been practicing tenor which always has been hard for me, I usually play alto.
I use a Couf Artist 9* HR on both horns but with different brands of reed and hardness.
Rico Royal 3 1/2 on tenor Vandoren 3 on alto.
Maybe i should stick to alto.
I'll try my Otto Link HR 7* that I bought in the early 80s.
I have some Rico Royal 3s.
According to Theo Wanne chart a Couf 9 is 92, an Otto Link 7 is 100.
I play jazz.
Listening to Chris Potter from an earlier thread and seeing him live with Pat Metheny a few years ago, I'd say he is as good an example to emulate as any.
Couf has a round chamber with little or no baffle.
Could be classical except for size.
My tongue does touch the reed, just not the tip. Tried a 3 reed. Feels about the same as the 3 1/2. I think new versus used makes them similar.
So tip of tongue on tip of reed?
I really felt where my tongue sits in my mouth when playing.
It doesn't anchor top or bottom and articulates about 1/4 inch from the tip.
When I tried using the tip on the end of the reed it felt uncomfortable on the skin of the tip.
I finally am getting to practice.
I put my tuner (strobe, accurate to 1% of 1 cent) on the music stand so I can glance at it while working on tunes or anything else
When I play intervals or scales I close my eyes and randomly open then to see where my intonation is.
Since i am a piano tech and tune by ear I'm dialing it in.
My goal is to be within 5 cents on all notes.
Of course if I play with the ireal app it's easier to match pitches.
I know everyone is out of tune to some extant.
On flute my sense of pitch is fairly well centered.
Played my alto 1st time in 3 months (only tenor) and it was as if I played the whole time.
Tenors is much better.
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