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i know i posted a similar thread to this before but this time a wanted specific info on clip on mics. i'm very strongly considering buying one as i frequently find myself moving around on gigs and ending up of mic. however i really know NOTHING about sound engineering as normally ill just play into a mic thats on stage for a vocalist. so i'm looking for something thats not super complicated and will work with virtually anything, sometimes i'm amplified with a PA sometimes it's just regular amp. wireless or not i don't really mind, i just want something that sounds good that i can take to any gig and be reasonably confident ill be able to use it. this mic would only be used for live stuff aswell if thats influential
 

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I think there are many players using the one Whaler mentioned above, or similar models with the small plastic clip that attaches right to the bell.

I have a more old school setup involving a plastic coated wire frame that wraps the outside of the bell allowing a standard microphone clip to be screwed on to it. Not even sure if they make these anymore. You can use any microphone and clip (or even a gooseneck) with this setup. This opens up a lot more options if you're looking for something more cost effecient, as a lot of the specialized stuff gets pricey.

It's also VERY secure, which was nice in college when I used to jam around with a few different groups. Have one of these clips for alto and tenor. Of course, depending on the microphone and cable used, it can add some extra weight on there. I've been using the small lipstick condensor microphone linked below with it for a while, nice flat response and very light.

Basically, a small cardiod pattern condensor microphone with good response is the usual choice for saxophone. The condensors are generally more responsive, and the cardiod pattern rejects most of the peripheral noise coming in from the sides.

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/5ef0e5beb547be51/
 

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If you can find the original (mid to late 80's) SM98 (not the newer Beta 98/A) with the hypercardioid filter attachment, I think that's one of the best mics ever created for saxophone live performance. This is the same mic that Brecker used extensively in the late 80's thru the 90's. You can see it in many of the videos of his performances. The mic has great presence with excellent clear high end and a substantial amount of presence without being brittle or tubby in the midrange.

These mics are difficult to find as they are no longer produced, but IMO it's one of the best ever made for live sound for horns - especially saxophones.

You might also look at the SD systems stuff. I've used these on occasion and they're very good as well.

http://www.sdsystems.com/sax-mic.html


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I have that older wireless 98, entire system if you want it, not sure how much it's worth. Mic, clip, belt transmitter and rack mount receiver in original box. I use AMT mics now with a Shure cord. We backline the transmitter and receiver so I just travel with mics.
 

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also very strongly considering AMT. anyone got anypointers on which if their mikes is the best for tenor?
 

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I gave up on cabled clip-on mics years ago - there's just too many things likely to go wrong on stage, and the last thing I want is for my horn to be on the end of a wire. At best it can get pulled off halfway through a number, at worst it can pull the horn off its stand. Might never happen...but when it does it'll cost big time.

I tried a few wireless mics and finally settled on the AMT Roam Elite. Pricey, but worth it.

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/Reviews/Roam.htm

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thanks steve. i just checked their site and couldn't find it... is there any chance they discontinued it? looks to me like it may have been replaced by the Wi5. regardless i did some more research and came up with 4 mics i'd consider buying. if anyone has any reccommendations on these mics or others i'd loce to hear them

http://www.appliedmicrophone.com/products/show/55
http://www.appliedmicrophone.com/products/show/75
http://www.appliedmicrophone.com/products/show/2
http://www.sdsystems.com/frame.html?frame=1&url=/89/89.htm
 

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I think there are many players using the one Whaler mentioned above, or similar models with the small plastic clip that attaches right to the bell.

I have a more old school setup involving a plastic coated wire frame that wraps the outside of the bell allowing a standard microphone clip to be screwed on to it. Not even sure if they make these anymore. You can use any microphone and clip (or even a gooseneck) with this setup. This opens up a lot more options if you're looking for something more cost effecient, as a lot of the specialized stuff gets pricey.

It's also VERY secure, which was nice in college when I used to jam around with a few different groups. Have one of these clips for alto and tenor.
These are called Keen Clamps and for a while were discontinued... The original maker is now selling them again: http://davenportinstrumentrepair.com/keenclamps.php

I've heard some people complain of key noise when using mics that don't have much shock/bump tolerance.

That said, looks like a good product, and I'll probably end up picking one up.
 

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I use the AMT LS with a Shure cable, transmitter and receiver, since the band I tour with backlines shure wireless equipment. I have a Shure belt pack aslo that plugs into a standard mic cord when I use the mic for my own gigs. The pack came with my 98 which I don't use anymore. The AMT LS can be set up with a cord for Shure or Sennheiser. For me this was best solution since the aforementioned backline situation. You can buy the AMT belt pack to plug into a standard mic cord also, that is if you don't want a wireless system. The complete wireless system is expensive but it is the most natural sounding clip on I've tried. Hope that helps.
 
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