[gary]

A friend loaned me a Dave Koz CD ("At the Movies") and his playing is just so predictable. But what stands out to me are the ornamentations and the swells in dynamics. They are so formulated that his playing on this CD is actually a caricature of himself.

I know the legacy of the great R&B players, through Dave Sanborn and onto his clones so I'm not asking about the lineage. I just want to know at what point did these smooth jazz guys start sounding the same regarding the cliched use of ornaments and swells in their playing. A point in time.

(ps this is not a diss Koz thread)

 

[hamilton]

I cant be sure on that album but Dave Koz , Bony James, Rick Braun, Richard Elliott all have seemed to have used Paul Brown as a Producer at one time (or more) Some of the influnces could come from this.

 

[dstack79]

I just want to know at what point did these smooth jazz guys start sounding the same regarding the cliched use of ornaments and swells in their playing. A point in time.

I'd say sometime around the late 90's...least to my ears that's when

-Dan