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I really want one of these I tried one the other day and loved it. And I am guessing the fact that noone wants to sell theirs that you love them too. But does anyone have any complaints and is possibly stuck with a mouthpiece they would sell to me!

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stu the sax player said:
I really want one of these I tried one the other day and loved it. And I am guessing the fact that noone wants to sell theirs that you love them too. But does anyone have any complaints and is possibly stuck with a mouthpiece they would sell to me!

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Save your money, get link NY its not as expensive as JJ DV and it has beautiful sound too. I dont know much about JJ as I have never ever tried it but its very expensive $475 new.
 

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Save your money, get link NY its not as expensive as JJ DV and it has beautiful sound too. I dont know much about JJ as I have never ever tried it but its very expensive $475 new.
I don't want to kill a gnat with a sledgehammer, but why post something like this? You have never played a DV NY you have no frame of reference to make a judgement. Such baseless opinions help no one. Too much of that goes on here as it is.
 

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**Self Edit**

Darn Gary, you beat me to it...:twisted:
 

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I don't want to kill a gnat with a sledgehammer, but why post something like this? You have never played a DV NY you have no frame of reference to make a judgement. Such baseless opinions help no one. Too much of that goes on here as it is.
ok..Apology

You are right i dont have enough information about DV. My personal intention is just to help fellow sotwer as money is getting hard to earn these days.

I didnt say DV is bad mind you

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I didnt say anything bad about DV ok? I do agree lots of people love it. Well it should be good for almost 500 bux a piece.

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You mentioned "You have never played a DV NY you have no frame of reference to make a "judgement". Such baseless opinions help no one. Too much of that goes on here as it is."

What judgement??Did I say anything about its quality? Did I say anything about its sound quality?Finish quality?
What baseless opinion? I only mention the price, am I right, its expensive, maybe not for you!
Too much goes on here as people like you who think they are superior bashing someone else post without thinking over again. I didnt have bad intention at all infact I want to help.

I only meant to say that a quality product is almost 3 times less expensive than another quality product and has beautiful sound so why would you want to spend 3 times more expensive if you could get something good 3 times less than that?

If thats wrong I am sorry but maybe we should learn to look at bigger picture and pure intention of what someone is trying to say rather than "sledgehammering" a post that has no negative intention whatsoever. This is what I think of being...adult...

You re saying..."gnats" does it because I have less posts than you so you are more superior and more right than me?(if you do think this way... i think you are either a very old person or a very young person)

If I said anything bad about DV then you can comment like what you just said.

Frank, I thought its over...are you still in bad mood? =)
 

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baseless-ness-R-us, gary! ;)
 

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I have tried both and love the JJ DV NY and yet really dislike the link NY
 

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Randall said:
baseless-ness-R-us, gary! ;)
I live to serve, Randall. :D

mjs10 - "I don't want to kill a gnat with a sledgehammer" is not referring to you personally but to not overreacting to something, in this case your recommendation to get a Link vs a DV NY.

Regarding the rest, your words speak for themselves. Readers can read your original post and your rebuttal to my remarks and come to their own conclusions. I'm not going to argue over this.
 

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I think we all know that the Law of Diminishing Returns applies to many, if not most things, especially those involving subjective judgements.
Very few things which cost twice as much are 'twice as good'.

Sometimes we are fortunate enough to find a relatively inexpensive item which gives as much(or more) 'satisfaction' as something much more expensive.... but, IMO, it's almost always something we must discover for ourselves.

(I have an RPC for $285, and a JJDV for $450....which is 'better', and by how much...... who can say?)
 

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Ummmm....clearly the JJ is $165 better.

Or the RPC is $165 better if cheaper = better.:)
 

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Personally I would choose the RPC, but only because I have played one. Better the devil that you know...
 

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I can honestly say the RPC I tried played worst an a yamaha 4C
 

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stu the sax player said:
I can honestly say the RPC I tried played worst an a yamaha 4C
You usually have to put more mouthpiece in your mouth to play an RPC, because they're really sensitive to biting.

4Cs play fine, just a little close for my taste.

Many people like the JJ DV NY. I don't play metal anymore, so, it follows that I would not play one.

Why don't you just cough up the $450 and buy one, if you like it that much?
 

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I aint selling mine.

It is worth every dollar.

I played a Link STM for years.

I had that one refaced recently. Yes, it is a damn fine mouthpiece.

The JJ DV NY, IMHO, is better. Less work. More fatness to the sound,
especially down low.

The Link has a nice clear quality to it and is easier to hit harmonics,
but I prefer the DV NY any day.
 

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gary said:
I live to serve, Randall. :D

mjs10 - "I don't want to kill a gnat with a sledgehammer" is not referring to you personally but to not overreacting to something, in this case your recommendation to get a Link vs a DV NY.

Regarding the rest, your words speak for themselves. Readers can read your original post and your rebuttal to my remarks and come to their own conclusions. I'm not going to argue over this.
So you can see if a little world can be ambiguous. You werent refereing to me but I felt it that way. You didnt mean to, but I felt that way. Its the same as what you just did. I didnt mean to make any negative comment about JJ DV. My recommendation is based on the value or price...and not baseless. But you thought I made a negative "knowledge-less" judgement about it, which is I didnt. And again,, you use a bad word "overacting" I dont think I "overact" its the fact thats its much more expensive. Is it overacting to say something is a fact?? It shows how naive you are mister.

Maybe I had to edit my words as I didnt mean to sugestively convincing someone to buy. I didnt force him to buy, hell no...I am just saying in a "mate's term" or lets use American terms here...pal to pal words...why dont you check out that MP and see how good it is without paying so much as the other. Now he said he doesnt like it...so be it...good on him...problems solved. We dont need this conflict!

Again my recommendation is mine, whether or not the person will take it is up to him. I did even say Jody jazz is not good ( i said"...link NY has beautiful sound TOO")

I really think we should refrain on commenting something negatively without thinking about it twice because we are not talking personally face to face in this forum, any words or sentences can be taken wrongly.

If you do have a little concern about my post, why didnt you PM me directly without making such harsh comment by using world "sledgehammer" It sounds so naive and cocky, sounds like you are like pros with thousands of comments and your expertise so when someone small like me saying something not right in your ear you can just "sledgehammer it". And I will explain to you and even apologize should my comment is mistakenly understood.

You re not going to argue about this...good! You should ve not done it in the first place. I dont actually enjoy writing this post. I am here to enjoy discussion and "healthy" debate not to make enemy.

I hope we can continue this peacefully.
 

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mjs10 said:
My recommendation is based on the value or price...and not baseless.
Think about following comment :

Save your money, don't buy a Conn 10M, and defenitely NOT a Yanagisawa. You can get a Jupiter for less money, and they're great horns. I've played on one of them. And anyway, the mouthpiece you play is a lot more important for the sound. :twisted:

I've said nothing wrong. I did own a Jupiter and they ARE good horns. Mouthpiece IS more important for the sound.

Found it helpful?

You get the point...
 

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Till the Jupiter falls apart in 3 years time, it happens here time and again with new Jupiters, Yamahas, cheaper Chinese horns of dubious branding.

It is true that the mpc makes a bigger difference than many of us realise. If you open up a 4C Yamaha mpc you can get some great sounding and playign results.
 

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mjs10, to "kill a gnat with a sledgehammer" is an American idiom, a common saying that basically means "overkill". No offense was meant to you, I am sure.
 
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