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Yes Nefertiti,
I would like to hear your reviews.
Cosmos music is selling an alto for 2,500.00 Can.
I can't remember the model number but it is the one with the bronze body alto.
It's a bit dear for a new brand.
Now, judging by all of the other instruments that Eastman manufacture, it is probably well made.
But it is nevertheless a new brand.
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perhaps there is a mistake in the amount an Eastman saxophone 2500 Canadian $?. I don't think so!

It is relatively easy nowadays for a company based in Germany to contact Chinese and Taiwanese (OEM or private label) instrument makers and ask them to put their name and logo on their products.

All the Eastman instruments that I have seen, until now, were Chinese and priced accordingly. It is possible that they have a Taiwanese made line too ( as Bauhaus Walstein for example who has a Chinese made line and a more expensive Taiwanese one ) I don't know .

Of course there is nothing wrong with buying from a OEM maker lots of people do it everywhere in the world with all sorts of products.

Personally, I would welcome the enforcement of the laws which are in use in most countries in the world whereby a product should be clearly labelled " made in.....", so that saxophones made in Taiwan would be clearly labelled as such and one could tell them apart from Chinese made ones. Lots of vendors nowadays claim a saxophone comes from Taiwan when, in fact, it comes from China.

The price level is , in general, a good price indicator 3 figures horns are made in China while 4 figures are generally made in Taiwan. I know what saxophones cost in both countries and one cannot offer a Taiwanese made instrument for 3 figures (well, you can do the other way around [rolleyes] and offer a Chinese made one for four figures :mrgreen: !) because it wouldn't be feasible unless you want to loose money.
 

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Are we talking about the same Eastman? Which usually buys cheap make horn from China and import to many courtries?

Or this is a new brand who are just happen to buying form taiwan and also have the same name? No matter what, market will decide on the value. so funny that suddenly there is someone asking and there is someone who also happen to have the Horn for review.

someone needs a better sales plan
 

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this is what they say.......... Made in China


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Eastman is an international German company with over 10.000 satisfied customers all over Europe during the last three years. We have over 20 years of experience with instrument manufactures in China, where we source our quality brand Eastman®. Due to our strong relationship both with customers and our manufactures we can instantly react to new market demands and improve quality and usability of our instruments.

Eastman offers high value wood and brass wind instruments for music schools, orchestras and semi-professional musicians for an attractive price. Our instruments have a well-balanced sound with a practice oriented quality at an excellent cost-performance ratio.

For more information or a product presentation please contact us at our Cologne Office- we are more than happy to offer you the best solution for your individual business needs..........."
 

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I just did some research on Eastman Strings.
They are based out of Clarksburg MD.
They owb their own factories in China and manufacture violins, guitars and mandolins .
They have a very good repution and their instruments are hand made.
There is no mention of Cologne Germany.
Furthermore; the letters of the name Eastman are not written the same way, especially so the capital E.
It seems that the Eastman saxophone , and flutes etc... are manufactured by Eastman Winds.
This certainly does not mean that they are not affiliated.
You would think that they probably are. Given the infringement that would apply if they are not.
I think I will pass on the brand. Given the Eastman name it is probably a quality product, but too little is known for my taste.
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I think that there are at least two companies called Eastman, their logo is different and a German company doesn't necessarily infringe anything by using a trademark that can be registered (as indeed the German on sporting a ® after the logo does) only in Europe while the American one (clearly called Eastman Strings so, not Eastman) could be registered (or not most companies never do that!) only in the USA.
http://www.eastmanstrings.com/eastmanstrings/history/history.htm
http://www.eastmanmusiccompany.com/
http://eastman-instruments.com/de/

Clearly the American Eastman Music company doesn't sell saxophones
 

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It seems to me that it is just another trading company who are posting themslves as the German brands. Who knows if they have any factory in taiwan all even really made in Taiwan at all.
But for sure try to create a mix up illusion with the Eastman in USA is a really not so nice trick. I did not understand why people will ever even think that is a good idea to do.
 

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actually there are many companies in the world with similar names and it is not necessarily a " trick" the companies have , in actual fact different names! Let's be serious, this is not a company called SelMAR![rolleyes]

Not only! Unlike the majority of the companies which are very devious and deceptive about their connection with China or Taiwan to the point of denying it or hiding it in the information that they give or even pretend they build instruments that are built by others , Eastman instruments is very forthcoming about their instruments coming from China as the declare in the passage from their company history quoted above and again here :

"..."..........
Eastman is an international German company with over 10.000 satisfied customers all over Europe during the last three years. We have over 20 years of experience with instrument manufactures in China, where we source our quality brand Eastman®. Due to our strong relationship both with customers and our manufactures we can instantly react to new market demands and improve quality and usability of our instruments.

Eastman offers high value wood and brass wind instruments for music schools, orchestras and semi-professional musicians for an attractive price. Our instruments have a well-balanced sound with a practice oriented quality at an excellent cost-performance ratio.

For more information or a product presentation please contact us at our Cologne Office- we are more than happy to offer you the best solution for your individual business needs..........."
 

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We've never gotten involved in on-line discussions concerning instruments that we have been associated with, but now because of the current discussion about Eastman Saxophones, we feel the need to clear up the confusion.

There are two unrelated musical instrument manufacturers operating under the Eastman name. There is one in Germany that according to their website does sell instruments that are manufactured in China. We represent the Eastman Music Company, a large company now based in Pomona, California, that manufactures high quality instruments. We were formerly based in Maryland with a warehouse in California but have moved all operations to our California location earlier this year.

The company started in 1992, in Maryland, with a line of orchestral string instruments manufactured under the name of Eastman Strings in our own factories located in Beijing China. Seven years ago, we acquired the William S. Haynes Flute Company and also set up a Flute manufacturing facility located next to our string shop in Beijing where we fulfilled Mr. Haynes' life long dream of manufacturing a high quality student flute under the brand of Andreas Eastman. Haynes still operates in Boston, MA as a high end handmade flute company under the Eastman umbrella.

We then moved into making high quality brass instruments under the Andreas Eastman brand. Our professional line of saxophones is being manufactured in Taiwan, also under the Andreas Eastman brand. The first thing we did was to take our prototype saxophones to a number of saxophone professionals, professors, teachers and repair people. With the comments, criticisms and suggestions from these people, many changes were made and we now have a full line of very high quality saxophones from soprano to baritone. We do also make a student saxophone that is assembled and set up in our Haynes Beijing factory but our professional saxophones are entirely made and assembled in Taiwan.

We do have a website at www.eastmanmusiccompany.com. We are in the process of doing a complete overhaul of our site so we unfortunately do not have the saxophone info up yet. We are planning on having an updated site that will include our saxophones by the end of the year. Until then, feel free to email or ask questions here and we would be more than happy to help. We are making a dedicated account for questions related to our Andreas Eastman saxes for use on this form but until then you may contact either of us at the email addresses below.

Roger Greenberg- Andreas Eastman Saxophone Specialist
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Ralph Torres- Andreas Eastman Saxophone Specialist
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Finally someone come out and speak the truth. If you read this so called "Eastman" website, they claim to have over 10,000 satified customers. It is really interesting, how do you count your customer and how do you know they are happy with your product? And if they are 20 years experience why do they give thier home " German' distruibution right to an online shop based in Poland.

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how do you count your customer and how do you know they are happy with your product? And if they are 20 years experience why do they give thier home " German' distruibution right to an online shop based in Poland.........
By the number of sales and possibly (I don't know if that is or isn't the case!........... But neither do you!) the lack of complaints?

Because all the costs , labour and organisation, are cheaper and they are both countries of the European Union? These days lots of major companies, including huge ones such as European car companies, have operations in former " east" Europe.
 
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