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I have been playing alto for 5 years with rubber mouthpieces. I currently play with a Selmer Super Session D.

I recently got a Dukoff D7 (equivalente to a Selmer Super Session E, which is not a big difference in the tip opening), but I also like the general sound of the Beechler metal.

(With the Dukoff) I got a large quantity of squeaks, specially in the haigh (not the highest) D to F range. The altissimos are really easier. I think that the quantity of squeaks is too much (one or two every 5 notes at least).

In adittion, the mouthpiece seems to have a kind of flaw (little defect) inside the chamber.

Can anybody comment about the differces in the sound features between these, and if they will represent the same difficulty level to my personal case?

It is my first time with a metal mouthpiece. Any comments from people who have experience with metal mouthpieces will be really appreciated.
 

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I tried two Dukoff alto mouthpieces back around 2007. They were so different from any other mouthpiece I had every played, and for me they were so wrong - I felt like as lost as if I were playing a trumpet. I'm not trying to say Dukoffs are bad, just that they are different.
 

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"Dukoff vs Beechler" - IMO many of the Dukoffs needs a refacing, and so does the Bellites. Beechler is more flexible than Dukoff, I use it playing in Big Bands, that I never could have done with a Dukoff.

About squeaks, read number five on Mojos FAQ page: http://www.mojomouthpiecework.com/FAQ/tabid/55/Default.aspx
 

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"Dukoff vs Beechler" - IMO many of the Dukoffs needs a refacing, and so does the Bellites. Beechler is more flexible than Dukoff, I use it playing in Big Bands, that I never could have done with a Dukoff.

About squeaks, read number five on Mojos FAQ page: http://www.mojomouthpiecework.com/FAQ/tabid/55/Default.aspx
Hi EgilF, Could you tell me more details of the differences of Beechler compared to Dukoff?

1) Beechler more flexible.
2) Brilliance????
3) Confident altissimo????
4) Stable tone in the high and low ranges????
5) What about slow volume (pianito)????
6) Etc.
 

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slow volume? You mean quiet volume? Pianissimo (aka pp)?
 

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Hi EgilF, Could you tell me more details of the differences of Beechler compared to Dukoff?

1) Beechler more flexible.
2) Brilliance????
3) Confident altissimo????
4) Stable tone in the high and low ranges????
5) What about slow volume (pianito)????
6) Etc.
I am sorry I don't understand all you questions, it is probably because of my bad english (I am from Norway).

Keep in mind that I am not a profesional player...:

Flexible: With the Beechler Bellites (I got two 5, both refaced to 6) I can play loud - quiet, smooth - rough, bright - not so. With the two Dokoffs I have had I could play loud, rough, bright.
Altissimo: Dukoff is a great altissimo mpc, the Bellite is also but perhaps this is the one Dokoff wins?
Stable tone in the high and low ranges: I Bellite with a nice curve (not the original...) plays stable i all ranges, yes is is thinner in the high ranges, but not as thin as min Dukoff used to be.
Pianissimo: None of these would be my choice if I only should play pianissimo.. This are both loud pieces. But I think the Bellite is a better smooth jazz mpc.

One of the "grand old big band sax players" in a local band say this about my Bellite: "I don´t like metal alto mpc´s, but yours is OK, it don´t sound as metal". (I think it does.... )

Mine Custom Beechler Bellite 5 (6):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdTUtUFRt0&feature=related#t=1m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbqAaVdjFR0&feature=player_embedded#t=1m43s

And a little piano/pianissimo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGt4NZ5HAIg
 

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I am sorry I don't understand all you questions, it is probably because of my bad english (I am from Norway).

Keep in mind that I am not a profesional player...:

Flexible: With the Beechler Bellites (I got two 5, both refaced to 6) I can play loud - quiet, smooth - rough, bright - not so. With the two Dokoffs I have had I could play loud, rough, bright.
Altissimo: Dukoff is a great altissimo mpc, the Bellite is also but perhaps this is the one Dokoff wins?
Stable tone in the high and low ranges: I Bellite with a nice curve (not the original...) plays stable i all ranges, yes is is thinner in the high ranges, but not as thin as min Dukoff used to be.
Pianissimo: None of these would be my choice if I only should play pianissimo.. This are both loud pieces. But I think the Bellite is a better smooth jazz mpc.

One of the "grand old big band sax players" in a local band say this about my Bellite: "I don´t like metal alto mpc´s, but yours is OK, it don´t sound as metal". (I think it does.... )

Mine Custom Beechler Bellite 5 (6):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdTUtUFRt0&feature=related#t=1m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbqAaVdjFR0&feature=player_embedded#t=1m43s

And a little piano/pianissimo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGt4NZ5HAIg
Hi EgilF, it is not your English, it is MY awful English (I'm Mexican), he he. But your comments and vidos are very good for me. Thank you! BTW, you play VERY GOOD!
 

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The bellite is not a high baffle mouthpiece like a dukoff D. It has a rollover. I think that the chamber is rather small, and the lay rather short. The material has very little to do with the sound.
 
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