From a quality standpoint, I'd take the Theo Wanne Slant. At least you'll know you're getting a top quality mpc that won't need refacing. But if you prefer a NY Link tone wise, then that's a different story. Also, if you don't like the mpc prior to a reface, there's no guarantee you'll like it after the reface though it should play a bit better. Key work there is "should", not the same as "will."On a side note I'm looking at either an Otto Link NY metal or the Theo Wanne Slant Sig 2. Both will cost me the same. Any input between the two?
I don't see the logic in this question? If you're going to buy a mouthpiece and you're accustomed to a Link 6*, why not just buy a Link 6*? Why look for a mouthpiece to have re-faced? If you are near a music store that has an assortment of mps go try a bunch and buy the one that you like. Or, order a couple from an online source that will let you return the one's you don't like. I've never understood the refacing thing. Shaving a micron off the tip of a mouthpiece is not going to give you as much of a benefit in play-ability as changing reeds will.If I'm accustomed to an Otto Link 6* and I want to buy one but have it refaced am I then looking for a 5* then that will end up a 6*? Or a 6 to a 6* refaced?
OK well, you keep bringing up quality issues. I don't believe in them. A mouthpiece either plays for you or it doesn't. Manufacturers are not going to put out mouthpieces that don't play. While one doesn't play for you it just might be right for somebody else. You can inspect a piece when you're checking it out to see if it has defects. But, even if it does, it might just be the one that plays great for you.I hope to get a chance to test out some mouthpieces at a music store next week. Essentially, from what I've gathered in my research is that there is quality control issues with current gen Otto Links. Perhaps this is overblown, I don't know. I keep hearing about people getting their Links refaced. Thus my inquiry. Basically with about $300 to spend my options was either buying something like a brand new Otto Link STM NY, a used Otto Link STM (NY or non) and have it worked to fix up any quality issues or buying the Theo Wanne Slant Sig 2 which seems to have a pleasant sound to me.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. You just never know how well a reface will turn out. I'd rather go with a mpc from a reputable designer (several come to mind, including Theo Wanne who makes a piece you're considering) that won't require refacing. But sure, you're on the right track to go in and actually try out some mpcs.Thanks! I guess I don't need to be as concerned about refacing a Otto Link as I previously thought.
+1. This is more or less what I was trying to say, but you wrote it more clearly.After over fifteen years of mpc work I can still say that almost every link can benefit from some work. However, this all depends on the level of the player too. It might be good enough out of the box or it might be a PIA and reed picky as hell.
My professional advice is to get the piece, play it and then decide on what, if anything, should be done.
If you get the wanne piece it is less likely that any work will be needed. I can guarantee that thenlink table illl not be flat. It might seal, it might not...the rest is a gamble
I'm with you 100%. There's no doubt that manufacturing defects occasionally occur. But in those cases, DON'T buy the defective item in the first place. If you need something more open, buy something more open. Don't ruin a perfectly good mouthpiece. I trust hundred thousand dollar precision machines and molds way more than a guy with a piece of sandpaper, a piece of glass and his gut feel. How often do you buy a new precision machined cylinder for your car engine, then sand it down to fit? Never.Sorry, no one will ever convince me to get work done on a mouthpiece. I try them, if they don't play well or don't give me the sound I'm looking for I don't buy them. It's as simple as that.
Well, you’re likely missing out on the opportunity to play some really fantastic pieces then. I was the lucky recipient of several mouthpieces with a The Martin Tenor I acquired several years ago. One was an early 80s Link that was below average at best. I’m sure the table wasn’t flat as this piece was very reed finicky and could be squeaky as ****! Not sure how the previous owner played it but clearly he had as the bite plate had a good intent in it. Anyway, I had it refaced by Phil-Tone and it’s now a great piece and only metal piece I’ve ever liked.Sorry, no one will ever convince me to get work done on a mouthpiece. I try them, if they don't play well or don't give me the sound I'm looking for I don't buy them. It's as simple as that.