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Somewhere along the line I started receiving Downbeat magazine again. So today I decided to check out the poll results - just curious. Not sure what to think, some majors players didn't even make the list while some winners I've never heard of. (I guess I should get out more).

Also, some of the 'rising stars' have been on the scene for decades.

I guess this is why I haven't looked out polls in years. Just wondering what other think about this sort of stuff.
 

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Since Downbeat basically turned into a combination of never-ending polls and advertisements for college jazz studies programs I quit reading it.
 

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I still like to read Downbeat, but the Critics Poll has just gotten to be weird.

For example, this year Vijay Iyer is named as “artist of the year” and his sextet is named “jazz group of the year.” Those are worthy choices, IMO. But what’s weird is that “Far from Over,” Iyer’s recording with his sextet, didn’t even place in the top ten for best album.

It’s also weird to see artists who’ve been around for many years win or place in the “rising star” categories. I would think a “rising star” would be somebody new to the scene. Julian Lage has been recording as a leader for 10 years, but he won the rising star. David Sanchez, whose first Blue Note sessions as a leader came out 25 years ago, also got votes as a rising star.

I haven’t heard the "Jazz Album of the Year," Cecile McLorin Salvant’s Dreams, or most of the others in the top ten. Those I have heard (Charles Lloyd, Ambrose Akinmusire, Chick Corea) did not impress me nearly as much as Iyer’s record, Chris Potter’s The Dreamer is the Dream, Christian McBride’s big band album, the Aziza Quartet record, and probably some others I'm not remembering at the moment, but there's no accounting for taste, I suppose.
 

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Sounds like Down Beat is being run by kids now. And we all know the world started with them.....
 

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I use it to keep current on groups and soloists I should give a listen to it they were unknown to me. That's it. Let's me know what others are listening to but that doesn't imply to me much more.
 

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gary, that's what I use SotW for; I gave up on Downbeat 20 years ago.
 

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the state of modern jazz is is just plain sad. known names mainly older players who peaked in another age.
 

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Here's the list in case anyone is interested:

The complete list of winners is below.

66th ANNUAL DOWNBEAT CRITICS POLL WINNERS

Jazz Artist: Vijay Iyer

Jazz Album: Cécile McLorin Salvant, Dreams And Daggers (Mack Avenue)

Hall of Fame: Benny Golson and Marian McPartland

Historical Album: Miles Davis & John Coltrane, The Final Tour: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 6 (Columbia/Legacy)

Jazz Group: Vijay Iyer Sextet

Big Band: Maria Schneider Orchestra

Trumpet: Ambrose Akinmusire

Trombone: Wycliffe Gordon

Soprano Saxophone: Jane Ira Bloom

Alto Saxophone: Rudresh Mahanthappa

Tenor Saxophone: Charles Lloyd

Baritone Saxophone: Gary Smulyan

Clarinet: Anat Cohen

Flute: Nicole Mitchell

Piano: Geri Allen (1957–2017)

Keyboard: Robert Glasper

Organ: Dr. Lonnie Smith

Guitar: Mary Halvorson

Bass: Christian McBride

Electric Bass: Steve Swallow

Violin: Regina Carter

Drums: Jack DeJohnette

Percussion: Hamid Drake

Vibraphone: Stefon Harris

Miscellaneous Instrument: Akua Dixon (cello)

Female Vocalist: Cécile McLorin Salvant

Male Vocalist: Kurt Elling

Composer: Muhal Richard Abrams (1930–2017)

Arranger: Maria Schneider

Record Label: ECM

Producer: Manfred Eicher

Blues Artist or Group: Bettye LaVette

Blues Album: Taj Mahal & Keb’ Mo’, TajMo (Concord)

Beyond Artist or Group: Kendrick Lamar

Beyond Album: Kendrick Lamar, Damn. (Interscope/Top Dawg Entertainment)

Rising Star Categories

Rising Star–Jazz Artist (TIE): Kris Davis and Julian Lage

Rising Star–Jazz Group: Nicole Mitchell’s Black Earth Ensemble

Rising Star–Big Band: John Beasley’s MONK’estra

Rising Star–Trumpet: Amir ElSaffar

Rising Star–Trombone: Jacob Garchik

Rising Star–Soprano Saxophone: Jimmy Greene

Rising Star–Alto Saxophone: Caroline Davis

Rising Star–Tenor Saxophone: Ingrid Laubrock

Rising Star–Baritone Saxophone: Alex Harding

Rising Star–Clarinet: Matana Roberts

Rising Star–Flute: Rhonda Larson

Rising Star–Piano: Orrin Evans

Rising Star–Keyboard: Elio Villafranca

Rising Star–Organ: Roberta Piket

Rising Star–Guitar: Jakob Bro

Rising Star–Bass: Thomas Morgan

Rising Star–Electric Bass: Mimi Jones

Rising Star–Violin: Scott Tixier

Rising Star–Drums: Johnathan Blake

Rising Star–Percussion: Satoshi Takeishi

Rising Star–Vibraphone: Behn Gillece

Rising Star–Miscellaneous Instrument: Tomeka Reid (cello)

Rising Star–Female Vocalist: Jazzmeia Horn

Rising Star–Male Vocalist: Jamison Ross

Rising Star–Composer: Tyshawn Sorey

Rising Star–Arranger: Amir ElSaffar

Rising Star–Producer: Flying Lotus

The August issue of DownBeat has features on numerous winning artists as well the complete results for each category, listing more than 1,200 artists who received votes in the Critics Poll. To subscribe to DownBeat, visit the website. DB
 

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Rising Star–Tenor Saxophone: Ingrid Laubrock

She's 47 years old. Maybe there's hope for me yet.
 

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It's not the first time Rudresh Maganthappa got to the top of the poll.I am following him for at least 6 or more years now.He is really good, you can also hear him and Vijay Iyer at Rezz Abassi album "Unfiltered"
 

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Where’s Chad Lefkowitz-Brown? That guy is touring the world, has a huge on-line following, and is really a next level player.
 
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