I agree with everything that is said.
Learning how to play the sax is like anything else.
At first, you have no idea what you are doing. And you have no idea what you need to do. And what you are doing wrongly
Next, you learnt a bit more and then you know what is wrong and what you need to improve on. Here is where you really start learning all the chops and stuff
Finally, you get all the technical skills under the belt, and the only thing left to learn or rather develop is your ear.
Going back to the topic of a young 16 year old trying to figure out what saxophone to buy.
Question you have to ask, is if you actually can tell a difference between saxophones at that age with that amount of experience.
When you play test a new saxophone, do you know if a sound is due to the saxophone? the neck? the ligature? bad setup? the Reed? the Mouthpiece? The player yourself? The acoustic of the room? Any other extra-ordinary reasons?
I dont. In fact, i have no idea sometimes. Until you figure out more about what you are doing then you can go in and figure out the subtle difference between saxophone. Personally, at 16, all i cared was whether the saxophone looked better (still do though!). Acutally, the most important thing is if the thing plays in tune as at that stage of your musical life, you have no idea of your own sound concept. It takes times, years, decades to figure out your own sound.
Now with the internet, it is even harder for a beginner to figure out what to buy. My best advice is instead of searching the 'net for more information..
1) Go play more and improve you technique
2) Go and play other people's saxophone and learn about the differences between saxophones in real life... not on what a forum tells you.
The internet is a tool, it is not do all, end all bible on how to buy a saxophone.
Anyway, to everyone who feels this way, there will always be young kids with lots of heart and passion. I would not say they are immature or anything, but i would have done the same at their age... Just give them the advice and let them do whatever they want to do. Sometimes, kids just gotta fall flat on their faces before they learn. It is all part of life
Cheers
Learning how to play the sax is like anything else.
At first, you have no idea what you are doing. And you have no idea what you need to do. And what you are doing wrongly
Next, you learnt a bit more and then you know what is wrong and what you need to improve on. Here is where you really start learning all the chops and stuff
Finally, you get all the technical skills under the belt, and the only thing left to learn or rather develop is your ear.
Going back to the topic of a young 16 year old trying to figure out what saxophone to buy.
Question you have to ask, is if you actually can tell a difference between saxophones at that age with that amount of experience.
When you play test a new saxophone, do you know if a sound is due to the saxophone? the neck? the ligature? bad setup? the Reed? the Mouthpiece? The player yourself? The acoustic of the room? Any other extra-ordinary reasons?
I dont. In fact, i have no idea sometimes. Until you figure out more about what you are doing then you can go in and figure out the subtle difference between saxophone. Personally, at 16, all i cared was whether the saxophone looked better (still do though!). Acutally, the most important thing is if the thing plays in tune as at that stage of your musical life, you have no idea of your own sound concept. It takes times, years, decades to figure out your own sound.
Now with the internet, it is even harder for a beginner to figure out what to buy. My best advice is instead of searching the 'net for more information..
1) Go play more and improve you technique
2) Go and play other people's saxophone and learn about the differences between saxophones in real life... not on what a forum tells you.
The internet is a tool, it is not do all, end all bible on how to buy a saxophone.
Anyway, to everyone who feels this way, there will always be young kids with lots of heart and passion. I would not say they are immature or anything, but i would have done the same at their age... Just give them the advice and let them do whatever they want to do. Sometimes, kids just gotta fall flat on their faces before they learn. It is all part of life
Cheers