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Do bari's attract clumsy people??

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I'm getting paranoid about my bari at gigs. A couple months ago the bass player knocked over a music stand and it left a ding in just above the thumb rest. Ouch. Then this weekend a keyboard player I never played with before knocked my bari over as we were packing up at the end of the gig. It was in a stand but he really dumped it. Most of the weight hit an upper post and cratered the body around the post, the post came off, the key was bent. It got a couple new small dings. I managed to tap the dings and the dent out, put the post back on, straightened the key, and it plays fine now, but a little worse for wear. I'm getting afraid to take it to gigs anymore. Anybody else have this problem or find solutions? For me, after the gig, the horns go against the wall, near me, where I'm packing up.

On the bright side, I had the horn upside down tapping out the small ding in the bell and an old $20 tip fell out. Didn't know it was there! I vaguely remember an old drunk guy throwing something in the bari bell a couple months ago as I played my tenor.
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At school I cringe every time I see someone walking around with the horn dangling off the neckstrap, no hands holding it. I've never dropped it or bumped it, but since I'm not the most graceful person in the world I always hold the horn very close to me.
I only ever leave my Baritone in the stand during sets, while playing other horns. Before, between and after sets it comes off stage either to the case or another safe place.
This Has happened to everyone that I know who owns or plays a baritone saxophone. The college my friend goes to has a YBS-62, brand new, and at the football game they went to two years ago, a tuba player slipped, and knocked it out of his hands, and it went "KLANK!" There is a 2 inch deep 6 inches by three inches wide dent in the bottom of the bow. I was in jazz band a year ago playing my Ybs-62, (it wasn't sitting!), and somebody who was moving chairs clanked one into the side of my bell! At my school we have a Yamahoo, (Yamaha!) and the kisd who plays it DROPPED IT! People show no carefulness at all, and always have no respect for anything!!!
I used to play in an instrumental soul band where the bass player would signal the next section in open sections by giving a little kick. There were a couple times on small stages where he kicked with his eyes closed and kicked my horn in the bell. It wasn't hard and there were no dents but i had the horn in my mouth both times, so it was pretty jarring (I felt like giving him a good kick. )
I too never leave my bari on the stand during a break. I put it back in the case or lay it on top of the case if it's out of harm's way.
HERE'S THE ANSWER.

It's Murphy's Law - plain and simple.

The more expensive something is, the greater the chance someone is going to damage it.

Now I share my story with you.......

Most sax on the webbers are unaware of my secret life as a keyboard player.
Oldies bands mostly and doubling on sax for those standard sax type songs.

I was given a nice bonus at work and decided to upgrade my keyboards since we were playing all the time and the Yamaha SY22 and Rhodes VK-1000 I had kept breaking.
I picked up a brand new Alesis QS7.1 and a Roland VK77 day before a gig and got them setup for the presets I would need.

The job is one of those bars out in the sticks that doesn't have a stage so you make a spot in the corner of the room at the edge of the dance floor.
3 hours into the set some drunk dude falls on my brand new keyboards and breaks the electrical connector on the VK.
I mean he fell into the whole setup and everything went crashing to the ground.

Murphy's Law.
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My first accident with an instrument happened when I was in eighth grade. I was marching with a bari, because we didn't have many low instruments (that could play well) in the band. I was not very big, the growth spurt that usually happens to boys didn't happen to me until the next year.

So here is this bari hanging below my knees, and we're marching on a brick street. Sure enought I trip over a brick that's a little higher than the rest, and the blasted bari gets tangled in my legs. I fall forward, right on top of the horn. I was mortified, but the band director allowed as it was not my fault, and he had the bari repaired. That was, however, when I started to hate marching band...

Oh, BTW, I believe that the clumsiest performing artists are dancers. You can put a piece of tape on a dance floor, and they'll trip over it. If you remove the tape, they'll STILL trip over it.

I think it's because when dancers are little, Mom notices that they're a little clumsy, and they think "Oh, if I get little Suzi dance lessons, she'll learn to be graceful". And so little Suzi becomes a dancer, and on the marley she's lovely and graceful etc., but everywhere else, she's still klutsy.
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hakukani said:
My first accident with an instrument happened when I was in eighth grade. I was marching with a bari, because we didn't have many low instruments (that could play well) in the band. I was not very big, the growth spurt that usually happens to boys didn't happen to me until the next year.

So here is this bari hanging below my knees, and we're marching on a brick street. Sure enought I trip over a brick that's a little higher than the rest, and the blasted bari gets tangled in my legs. I fall forward, right on top of the horn. I was mortified, but the band director allowed as it was not my fault, and he had the bari repaired. That was, however, when I started to hate marching band...

Oh, BTW, I believe that the clumsiest performing artists are dancers. You can put a piece of tape on a dance floor, and they'll trip over it. If you remove the tape, they'll STILL trip over it.

I think it's because when dancers are little, Mom notices that they're a little clumsy, and they think "Oh, if I get little Suzi dance lessons, she'll learn to be graceful". And so little Suzi becomes a dancer, and on the marley she's lovely and graceful etc., but everywhere else, she's still klutsy.
I friggin hated marching band but my director was very sly. He wouldn't allow players to be in the Stage Band(JAZZ BAND) unless you also marched in the marching band. I hated it but did what I had to do.
hakukani said:
So here is this bari hanging below my knees....
My Bari still hangs below my knees, I'm still waiting for that growth spurt (there's another one at 30, right?)
littlemanbighorn said:
My Bari still hangs below my knees, I'm still waiting for that growth spurt (there's another one at 30, right?)
Yeah, Horizontal!
On bari gigs, during breaks: the neck is taken off, neck and mouthpiece shoved in a big sock, the sock put in the bell, and the horn put in its case and zippered up completely. The case is put somewhere where absolutely no harm can come to it under any circumstances possible. If I also have other instruments on those gigs, however, I leave them on the stands, no problem.

I agree with the Murphy's Law bit. For some reason, the big horn is the hardest to see/avoid when one is drunk and stumbling around, dropping/tripping over sound equipment, etc.
I was onstage a couple of weeks ago with my classic Rock band, that I play tenor and bari with. The bari was on its stand, and I had my tenor. I had forgotten to put the mouthpiece cap on the bari. I leaned over to pick up my beverage, and smacked my forehead on the bari mouthpiece. It destroyed the reed (no problem I had a spare). But I got a bruise on my forehead.

Don't forget your mouthpiece cap.

I also need a better place to put my beverage.
I've seen wire cup holders that attach to a mic stand, very handy. Looks a little more classy than a hat that holds two cans of beer with straws running down to your mouth. I learned quickly to keep the caps on the mouthpieces, after picking up my sax to blow and finding the reed trashed by somebody walking to close.
I've seen those, too, but I play with a clip on. I guess it's time to start doing vocals!
Murphy's law #288...the more expensive the instrument, the higher the magnetic force to attracts oafs. I have found that gremlins like to inhabit my practice room when I'm out of town. Broken reeds, bent rods, blown fuses on the bass amp, new dents in the guitar body...whichever piece I have set up in the room is the most expensive, that piece ends up damaged within a week. It sucks to have to put your instruments away properly every time you play them.
When I read the title of this post I thought it meant does bari sax attract clumsy sax players.

Then I read Haku's posts and I realized I was right!;)

Actually it goes for me too....:cry:

gimme a K!
gimme a L!
gimme a U!
gimme a T!
gimme a Z!

It wasn't a bari, but i have a delightful memory of ascending the concrete bandstand at our stadium with the schools brand new epoxy laq tenor held in front of me, me slipping on a step, and the bell meeting the 'crete with a resounding crunch....
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littlemanbighorn said:
My Bari still hangs below my knees, I'm still waiting for that growth spurt (there's another one at 30, right?)
Yup, thank goodness in this guy's case:
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I play a lot of bari, but my middle name is Gisele, so I'm very graceful. It took about two weeks for the first little bell ding in my new Serie II bari when I got it. My tech asked me if I wanted him to take it out on its first trip in. I said no! That would just be asking for another. It is still, there, reminding me.
danarsenault said:
I play a lot of bari, but my middle name is Gisele, so I'm very graceful. It took about two weeks for the first little bell ding in my new Serie II bari when I got it.
Does that make it a Dingle-Bari?
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