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Not sure what the deal is with the 402, but I can't find the 404 anywhere online. Does anyone know what's going on? Has Selmer stopped making them altogether?
Did they stop making the Selmer 404?
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I think theyndid and I dont know anyone who cares too much for the 402.
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I actually use a 402 on my Seventh Avenue South tenor piece and it's great.
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The 402 is what fits Guardala and a few other trim-line metal tenor pieces. I have one I use on these but it seems over the years more guys have gone to using Rovner style ligs on these pieces since that's what was shipped with a lot of them from WW&BW and are more easily available.
Personally I prefer nice two screw ligatures and it's getting very difficult to find ones in sizes outside the standard HR alto and tenor unless you're willing to pay $100+ for an Ishimori or Marc Jean.
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There’s a place called Dawkes music in the UK that still had some the other day. I heard Selmer quit making them and bought up several 404 and 402, but I didn’t buy them all.
I just searched Reverb.com but did not find any.
You could buy this and toss the doorstop.
ammoon Tenor Sax Saxophone Mouthpiece Metal with Mouthpiece Patches Pads Cap Buckle (8C) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013W7237K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_xBFPEbBNG5VAQ
ammoon Tenor Sax Saxophone Mouthpiece Metal with Mouthpiece Patches Pads Cap Buckle (8C) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013W7237K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_xBFPEbBNG5VAQ
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Just search for Selmer ligature and browse the list. I see 2 for sale right now.
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LOL, I almost want to buy it just to see....
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Not worth it. The ligature is part of the doorstop.
https://reverb.com/item/32949009-se...r-mouthpiece-bb-tenor-saxophone-1970-s-silver
https://reverb.com/item/33225297-selmer-paris-m404-metal-tenor-ligature-silver-plated-for-saxophone
https://reverb.com/item/26236109-selmer-jazz-e-metal-tenor-sax-mouthpiece-with-ligature-and-cap
Looks like you currently have a choice of vintage, new, or with MP and cap.
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The upcharge on those ligs is really irritating.
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Why? They're no longer made. The time to buy them cheap expired about a year ago.
The 402 is what I use on my Mosaic. I bottom out the threads on my (heavily used, probably stretched out) 404 when I try to use it on that mouthpiece with slimmer reeds like the Legere Signature.
It's a shame we are losing these ligatures from production, but I guess they must not have been selling well enough to keep them. I picked one up used for probably $20 on SOTW back in 2005 or so and have used it on my Link ever since. I bought one at Ishimori a couple of years ago for around $40 USD, so I have one ready for that mouthpiece when my well-worn one bites the dust, but it's a little frustrating to seemingly not have any options for a well-made basic two-screw ligature with nicely cut threads, high quality screws, durable material and properly-aligned threads and guides below the Ishimori price range.
I feel a little silly hoarding a bunch of old, basic Selmer two-screw ligs for various mouthpiece sizes, but here we are!
I don't know that they make me sound better than the dirt cheap two-screw ligatures available everywhere, but those threads feel a lot nicer to use and, for whatever reason, the edges don't cut into reeds like the cheap two-screws do. Plus, they look great!
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Sure, but more than double the original price? Ridiculous. Obviously that's just my opinion, but I'd never spend $100 for a 404.
What's your opinion on vintage horns selling for exponential factors of their original price?
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Id never spend a hundred bucks on any lig
The 402 looks cheaper to make and sell for the same price.
As for the old selmer ligs, I agree that the machining on the screws feels nice.
The 402 looks cheaper to make and sell for the same price.
As for the old selmer ligs, I agree that the machining on the screws feels nice.
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