[Petrofied]

Are these bare metal touches? I do not see any retainer cup that would have once held
pearl touches. So if this is original without pearls when might this sax have been from?

It's a Lyon & Healy American Professional silver plate tenor 5 digit S#

Thanks

 

[Guto]

That’s right. I’d guess pre-1920’s
Lots of threads on these here Couturier/Lyon & Healy

 

[Hoosier Ken]

My L&H tenor is a Buescher True Tone stencil and it doesn't have any pearl tops. I put its pics in the gallery.
Lyon & Healy American Professional Tenor

 

[Petrofied]

Thanks I wish I could find these posts, I'll have to try other searching methods my searches don't come up with very many relevant results I'm only recently here

 

[extradarcafe]

I have a gold-plated Selmer C tenor with no pearl key touches. And I've seen quite a few "home edition" saxes with limited range and no touches, likely to cut cost to bare minimum.

 

[Petrofied]

Interesting Gold plated and trying to cut corners hmmm but I guess anything goes in marketing strategy! Looks like this L&H is a C melody is that the same as a C tenor? Mine is approx 27" tall

 

[Hoosier Ken]

Interesting Gold plated and trying to cut corners hmmm but I guess anything goes in marketing strategy! Looks like this L&H is a C melody is that the same as a C tenor? Mine is approx 27" tall

Do you have more pictures? Also in the link that I shared there are some catalog pages from L&H so you can see the models. My Conn C tenor (a.k.a. C melody) is about 24" tall to the neck tenon. It is a straight neck so about 27" overall.

 

[Petrofied]

Here's a previous post with photos of the C melody sax I bought it today for $35 from Salvation Army it's been made into a lamp and I am considering dismounting it and trying to revive it. Wild find...

Anyone ever see something like this? Assistance requested!

Hello fellow saxers. Jump right to the 1st photo... Today I was at my local Chicago Salvation Army store and lo and behold I found this whacked out Lyon & Healy tenor sax LAMP OMG! Lyon & Healy American Professional Chicago “Les” Kreiger model It seems to have a 4 digit serial # I can’t make...

www.saxontheweb.net

 

[PigSquealer]

Here's a previous post with photos of the C melody sax I bought it today for $35 from Salvation Army it's been made into a lamp and I am considering dismounting it and trying to revive it. Wild find...

Anyone ever see something like this? Assistance requested!

Hello fellow saxers. Jump right to the 1st photo... Today I was at my local Chicago Salvation Army store and lo and behold I found this whacked out Lyon & Healy tenor sax LAMP OMG! Lyon & Healy American Professional Chicago “Les” Kreiger model It seems to have a 4 digit serial # I can’t make...

www.saxontheweb.net

From the support under the neck it’s a Buescher. That’s the only maker that had that design support. They only used it on one model. C melody. should measure something like 25 inches from the bottom of the bow to the top of the neck receiver.
This was most likely made before 1923. A decent playing C melody. many pre-1925 saxophones did not come with pearls. Interesting as this one has a gold wash bell.
Yeah it’s worth fixing as a DIY. Study up and buy some decent screwdrivers before working on it. Mistakes get time consuming and frustrating. The wrong tip angle on a screwdriver will wedge the hinge rod into the post. Common mistake.
lol $35 lamp. The mouthpiece is worth that much.
Great find ! And it came with a shop lamp🤣

 

[PigSquealer]

Interesting Gold plated and trying to cut corners hmmm but I guess anything goes in marketing strategy! Looks like this L&H is a C melody is that the same as a C tenor? Mine is approx 27" tall

Here’s some more information for your studies.

Buescher True Tone C melody saxes | The Bassic Sax Blog

This in-depth research article focuses on Buescher True Tone C melody saxes and explores the evolution in their design thru their seminal 10 year period. Pics!

bassic-sax.info

 

[Petrofied]

Thanks my friends! The worst can happen I mess up the overhaul and go back to the lamp

 

[blaine hoopes]

One of the best sounding tenors I ever owned was an old Conn without pearls. It had no engraving other than C.G. Conn on the bell and smooth finish (no satin) that was like shiny like chrome and I assume was Nickel Plated. I believe these were all options that you could specify and the no pearl, no rolled tone hole, no satin finish, no silver or gold plate etc. would have saved a lot of money on the purchase price.

 

[Brenton]

I have a gold-plated Selmer C tenor with no pearl key touches. And I've seen quite a few "home edition" saxes with limited range and no touches, likely to cut cost to bare minimum.

My guess is yours is an American-made "Selmer" stencil (there were plenty of those. It may even say "Selmer New York")? I'm even doubting whether it's gold-plated - you may be able to prove me wrong. [If it has opposing Bell Keys, it's not by Selmer (Paris)].
There's a 1917 Buescher (s/n 33k) on ebay right now that has MOP key touches. We know from this thread and other sources that Buescher-made stencil Saxes of a lot later s/n range often don't have MOP key touches (to save cost).
But yes, there will be an earliest date that MOP key touches first appeared on Saxes somewhere - I just don't recall anyone's research that has suggested who and when. Each maker will have their own different start-date too. Anyone here up for such research? Cheers...

 

[PigSquealer]

My guess is yours is an American-made "Selmer" stencil (there were plenty of those. It may even say "Selmer New York")? I'm even doubting whether it's gold-plated - you may be able to prove me wrong. [If it has opposing Bell Keys, it's not by Selmer (Paris)].
There's a 1917 Buescher (s/n 33k) on ebay right now that has MOP key touches. We know from this thread and other sources that Buescher-made stencil Saxes of a lot later s/n range often don't have MOP key touches (to save cost).
But yes, there will be an earliest date that MOP key touches first appeared on Saxes somewhere - I just don't recall anyone's research that has suggested who and when. Each maker will have their own different start-date too. Anyone here up for such research? Cheers...

Conn but a start.

 

[Sigmund451]

You often find older military horns with no pearls.
Just bare bones instruments but nothing wrong with them.

 

[reedsburn62]

Original Adolph Sax did not have pearls:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-att_001&hspart=att&p=adolphe+sax#id=2&vid=55dfb28c4c6fd1a0c9af21a9933d74b6&action=click

 

[Brannigan]

It's always interesting when you see one without pearls. It's something that's so ingrained in sax design I find it jarring when they aren't there.

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[jazzsax07]

I have a Stephanhouser tenor I purchased used about 12 years ago but I believe from early 2000’s, it has metal touches.

 

[Obie]

I have 1914 Conn Wonder Improved Tenor that lacks pearls. Key layout on that horn is actually pretty comfortable.