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Well the horn certainly looks to be in fairly good shape. Even if you have to get a full overhaul (which runs a bit of money for a bari), it still looks like a decent deal. If you can make do with the existing case that will save you a few hundred.

I'm not familiar with the quality of the Parisian brand, but $500 for any bari is probably a good deal.
 

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I took a quick look on Ebay on your new Bari and it looks decent enough but looks aren't everything with horns. the previous owner says he knows little about horns and makes no real mention on the pads or key mechanisms being in order so you can assume this horn will need a trip to your local sax shop for a look over and setup. since you only paid $500 with a proper setup you should still come out ahead and have a good time on the Bari sax.
 

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This bari is WAY prettier than my old Buescher 400. Lets hope that it plays as well as it looks.
When does it ship to you? It's located a little over 2 hours north east of where I live.
 

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I just won it and paid for it tonight. I am really excited by the comments so far. I will take it to PM Woodwind (Paul Masslin's shop) when it arrives. They are the best in the Chicago area. I'll just make sure it's in playing condition so I can check the intonation and try to find any quirks with it or with myself since this will be my first blow. I work with a Classical teacher who will put it though it's paces. Tenor is the largest horn I have played since I started playing again 6 years ago.
 

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I think you did fine, even if you need a repad. I think the Olds Parisian is actually a Pierret stencil. There are Pierret folks on the forum who can give you more info about the company and their horns. You will enjoy it
 

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It is indeed a Pierret stencil. I have a Super Artiste bari (it's actually the bari in my current avatar!), and IMO they're good playing saxes.

As far as the price goes, I don't think you did too bad. Pierret stencils (or Pierret's themselves) generally don't bring a ton of money...but if you end up at or below 800 after getting it appropriately tweaked you're doing pretty well.

It's interesting that yours doesn't have nickel plated keys...most Parisian bari's I have seen are of the two-tone variety.
 

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Yes, I think this is a nice horn that was sold at a convenient price because there is not too much call for French baritones (other than Selmer France) especially in the States. this one doesn't seem to have nickel plated keys and the sole close up of the bell reveals a little discolouration which might be the remnant of a repaired (well repaired) dent on the bell.
In my opinion if one buys a baritone for less than half the price of a Yamaha student model alto one cannot have done wrong. The cheapest Chinese baritone would cost more and your horn must be worth the overhaul which probably needs the only thing is that I would first try to find out if I like it (intonation wise) enough to have it fixed because due to the lack of popularity of these horns, if you should decide to sell it after the overhaul you will find it difficult to recuperate the whole amount that the horn would have costed you by then.
 

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I agree Milandro intonation may be a challenge until I find the optimum setup that will get me within a acceptable range. In addition, it may take awhile to adjust my embouchure since this is my first bari. I spend 65% of my time on Tenor and 35% on Alto. I would expect this horn tone to be more focused than spread so I will start of with a closed piece and medium short facing and hopefully wont have to use many false fingerings to bring pitches in tune. I have read that the low d can be stuffy and a little flat but I have not played a horn yet that does not have a stuffy low D including my 66RUL in which I normally pop my B cluster key to bring the pitch in tune if I have play a piece where I have to sustain the low D.
 

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I am not much of a baritone player but one word of advise............. relax your jaw! Enjoy you new horn!
 

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I'm sure you've got a good one there. I paid $1500+ for a parisian ambasador before I knew what I was doing. It turned out that the low C# post had been beaten into the body, and resolderd without being pulled back in true, making it impossible to play that note. luckely though, the seller had a 7 day return pollicy so I didn't end up falling into the money pit. Evan with repairs, you'll be getting a fine horn. Mine sounded great, espesialy in the low range, and this was tested alongside a conn tranny bari. Good luck!
 

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Well here's the update so far - The neck is not the original neck. It looks like something that has been frabricated to work with the horn.:(

All pads look good with the exception of a couple of palm keys - no big deal.

One small ding that can be easly removed but I won't waste any money on that. The horn looks pretty good otherwise. Since I don't have a bari MP I have not played it to find all of the leaks or check intonation etc.. I have a cheap Rico B7 on the way.

I'm a little worried about the neck because it may be difficult to find a replacment. I will be taking it down to PM Woodwind thursday. I have found a picture of what the original neck should look like.


Does anyone have any advice in the interim?
 

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Just took the horn down to PM Woodwind. Paul informed me to not to put much money into the horn. He is going to bring it up to playing to condition to see what we are working with. If all else fails I will be selling it as a project horn. Stay Tuned!!!
 

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If your low D is stuffy..try opening up the key height of the low c key{give the low c more air space}
its an easy adjustment..that is what the screw -felt mech on the guard is for!
i find too many saxes were this is set to low!!
 

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I think it might take a miracle to find the right neck for it, but the 'Parisian' line was a way for Olds to offer a step-up horn without doing any development, like other stencilers. Olds made one premium sax during the '40s called the 'Super'. IIRC, all Olds-branded horns were stenciled by Martin, at least the ones with the soldered-in tone rings. But the Parisian' line was French-made with drawn tone holes and more modern keywork. For the money, I think you may be able to make that one work IF the makeshift neck is suitable. But you never know, there's probaly a neck or two lying around somewhere. Stranger things have happened. Worst case, if you could get measurements of an original neck, there are several neck specialists who will make you one. What you would need to do that are pictures of a good neck, a tracing of it and accurate dimensions.
 

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A very good buy. The Parisian Ambassador altos played very nice. French made bari saxes are under rated--I played a French made Noblet bari for several years and it was a very good horn.
 
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