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Hey yall, is there any hope for a clean trill between D# and C# at the bottom of the horn? I can work around it in the song and do a different note, but it's a problem i'd like to solve with some trick fingering instead of rolly-polly-derby action... does anyone have a trick for this?

i have until tuesday to figure this out. This is for Bowie's Moonage Daydream btw.
 

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One thing that will help a little is to keep the C# key pressed when you do the trill. This will clean the movement up a little, but a fast trill will still be difficult. Also, avoid lifting the little finger when moving between the Eb and C key. Instead, use the rollers and continued pressure with the little finger.

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Thanks for the tips. I tried it tonight at rehearsal and it still doesn't cut it (holding the C# key down). The trill sounds really sloppy and it's a very low speed trill (the David Bowie song is on youtube for reference) We discussed it tonight and i am going to play it an octave higher instead so it sounds clean. Pity, I really wanted to play in the lower range and sound rather like a bari. As the song goes, "you can't... always get... what you waaaaant"..

Can someone show me what the alt Eb looks like on a tenor? Useful info, i'm still looking for my next horn.
 

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The alternate Eb is called a forked Eb and it is only on 1920's saxophones (don't hold me strictly to those years). It is a small vent that opens on the back of the horn when the player raises R2 while keeping R1 and R3 closed. Most players have that vent closed in one way or another - often a source of leaks. DAVE
 

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Forked Eb's pretty much disappeared in the late-30's.
 

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These two pictures show the alternate Eb. The first picture shows the key touch on the E cup, that has a lever instead of being fixed to the cup. When you lift your middle finger from the E the E cup stays closed but the lever actuates the little tone hole in the back of the horn (picture 2). It does sound a bit stuffy (it does on my 1937 Conn) , but for a trill it is good enough. Depends on the horn too - on my Voll True alto it sounded nice and clear.

Picture 1

http://www.saxpics.com/?v=img&img=/cpg143/albums/Conn/artist/10m/silver/265898-sq/265898ConnTenor13.jpg#imgTop

Picture 2

http://www.saxpics.com/?v=gal&a=371




thanks to sax pics for the pictures
 
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