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Soprano: 1983 Keilwerth Toneking Schenklaars stencil
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They are an older brand than the place that sold one to you back then. That's probably the year that they started selling them.

My old music store, Royal Music in Royal Oak, Michigan, which was Mr. Couf's store, had them much, much earlier than 1983.

For example, if you research Grover Washington Jr in the 1970s, look at old videos, and album covers, etc you'll see him use Couf horns clearly into the 1970s. He preferred a Selmer alto, but Couf soprano and tenors.

here's my SN chart. It's in blog format now and I haven't bothered making it look good.

Mr. Couf and Gary Ferree (one of his engineers at the time) helped evolve the JK keywork from the 1960s old style keywork to more modern-ish keywork. The above webpage, who's links don't work right now (oops), actually show(ed) some of those changes.

I would think about 1969 for Helen's Low A bari.
I've always wanted to get Couf Low A Bari, but the weight doesn't do good things to my back no matter what I do nowadays. I've only played low A bari once, back in 1982 which was a Superba I supplied by Mr Couf, for the state honor's band. He was a great guy always wanting to help the budding musician.

FYI, there was a Bundy Special which was a Couf designed instrument, which evolved into the Superbas. Well, that one model actually devolved into the student version Couf horns Royalist and Royalist I. Royalist II was an Elkhart, IN model.
For those following this URL to the serial number chart, I want to point out that the year listed is the year in which that instrument serial number was made. The serial number therefore is neither the first instrument nor the last instrument of the year. While an absolutely legitimate way to design a table, if care is not taken, this method can lead to a misreading of the table.

Here is the table that I have used and here is a Google translation of the author's introduction. This was referred to in an earlier post.

This list is from the manufacturer directly. It is therefore considered right. The only inaccuracies arose in 1945/46 because after the new start of production in Nauheim, 20,000 were simply restarted to number the instruments.
In this table the serial number given is the first number in the production year. This is generally in agreement with the table above, but may be more complete and easier to read.
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