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Converting a tune to midi

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Does anyone know if there is some [cheap prefereably] software that will convert an mp3 file into midi? Or from a wav file to midi?

I'm trying to get a tune converted so a friend can do an arrangement in Sibelius, and a midi file would be best for him to work with.

Thanks
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Band in a Box does this, I believe.
Thanks, I've tried that and sent the file off. We'll see if it works for him to open the midi and work with it.
Keep me posted. I've just ordered BIAB (I already have Sibelius), and expect great things from it.
Saxmanglen is one of the resident experts on BIAB. I've never really gotten the hang of it, but I need a band to start recording with, so I'm up for the challenge when you are. Let's keep everyone informed...If this program is one of the answers, then I need better definition of the question! ;-)
BIAB doesn't do that. (MP3 to midi) MIDI isn't music. It's just computer/number information. I'm not aware of any program that can do that conversion.


I guess I stand corrected..... A simple google search brought up these programs.
I just bought a 2004 version of Print Music by Finale which is usually $99. I bought it for $10 from EBAY.
I'd be interested in the results of these commercial programs. I've seen a few computer science projects go by (while I was in school) that intended to do similar things. Most of them were simplistic, and didn't have the capability to score (on different "tracks") instruments that had similar qualities (two people playing tenor, tenor/alto, etc). I did see some very effective results with simplistic back (bass, piano, NO drums) and a soloist.

Separate issue: If anyone out there gets one of these, please post back with a review (or start a thread to review the product).

saxmanglen said:
I guess I stand corrected..... A simple google search brought up these programs.

::~~Edited to get out BAD BAD BAD LINKS!~~::
Hey guys...
My virus protection is picking up some kind of virus called Win32/PEStealth in those installations from mp3 to wave site.... I use AVG antivirus.
Just tried myself and got the same mssg. Stopped trying and deleted everything that did install. I also have AVG installed. Did a virus check at that point and nothing came up.
The best way to "convert" audio to MIDI would be to load the audio track and then setup to record the MIDI by either keyboard that features good patches, or Guitar/Bass synthesizer. Set loop points and while the audio is playing back loop record to a MIDI track until satisfied with the results. The Midi notes are then represented on the MIDI track. Probably nothing easier than this yet. HTH :)
I don't think I understand... you are saying that there are software that you can feed it, say, an MP3 of Beethoven's 5th Symphony or the Beatles' "Yellow Submarine", and it converts it to a General MIDI file? I'm pretty sure the state of the art in music software hasn't reached that point yet.
Not sure which post you are referring to. One can certainly import an audio file to an audio track, playback that audio track, and at the same time record a MIDI instrument to a MIDI track. Depends on the software configuration and the soundcard. Loop recording makes the process easier, IMO. It is probably best to avoid using the integrated card and use a dedicated soundcard set as the default.

Addition for clarification: You would need to physically press the keys of the MIDI Keyboard to record any notes.
I've deleted the link in my post. I'm really sorry guys. It was not intentional.

Dburlone please edit out the link in your post too.

Thanks
Wildcat Canyon Software ( If memory serves) had software that would take a live audio input or a recorded track of a single instrument and convert to midi. It took some tweaking to get it to "hear" properly, but I had seen a demo of a guy scat singing and it transcribed it. It ran on win 98 and I don't think it ever went to XP, At the moment the name of the software evades me.

I saw one tonight, a link to one anyway on a midi site, but it was $200 or something like that. I highly doubt one could take a fully mixed song, feed it into any software and have it score all the individual parts, there would be too much overlap of frequencies. but that is just one man's opinion.
Bill Mecca said:
I highly doubt one could take a fully mixed song, feed it into any software and have it score all the individual parts, there would be too much overlap of frequencies. but that is just one man's opinion.
You're right on for consumer software at this point in time. There are techniques that can decompose complex signals that are mixed together using statistical signal processing. Even at this point, though, they still require apriori knowledge of how many significant components (instruments) are playing on a sound sample (and with a drum kit, cymbols are one instrument, snare is another, toms are another etc.). Once you start to put in more instruments you start to increase how long it takes to get a result.

I'm confident with consumer grade hardware (say a 3GHz P4 crazy machine), to score an entire orchestral arrangement of say 5 minutes, you'd need to give it a week or two of solid processing (make sure windows doesn't crash!) and you'd still get a score that could potentially have problems.

I've studied a few techniques for decomposing mixed signals, and the ones I understand best have very high computational complexity (takes a long time) due to their multi-dimensional properties. I'm sure that sooner or later, someone MUCH smarter than me will figure out a better way to do this decomposition...

On a brighter side... I DO think that there are programs out there that can take a single recorded instrument, and transcribe that to MIDI (just haven't looked for them).

Sorry about the BAD BAD link!
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I am so embarrassed. I read it as converting midi to mp3...

Sorry all....
To distill it - are you guys saying that the previously posted link
- is corrupt (with virus)?
- is bogus (the softward programs don't do what they claim)?
gary said:
To distill it - are you guys saying that the previously posted link
- is corrupt (with virus)?
- is bogus (the softward programs don't do what they claim)?
Gary,

I posted a link that came up from a google search. When I accessed it I did notice my pop-up blocker kicked in but could still review the selections on the page. Undoubtedly, some others were getting warnings that malicious software or something worse was trying to download automatically. I took the link down.

It sounds like the available programs have had limited success, especially if the tune is more complex than 1 or 2 instruments.
gary said:
To distill it - are you guys saying that the previously posted link
- is corrupt (with virus)?
- is bogus (the softward programs don't do what they claim)?
Only 11 posts and your questioning the veracity of senior members?

Newbies are all the same. Use the SEARCH function.
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